Did they change the OSDD criteria

So on this other forum I am on this lady claims to be a therapist about 8 hours from where I live a couple states away. She said that DDNOS was changed to OSDD in 2013. I know thats true but she also claims that OSDD now means no condition no disorder. Is she full of sh*t?

All the DSM definitions are available online. You can Google all the DSM-5 definitions of dissociative disorders and read them for yourself.

Rive wrote:she also claims that OSDD now means no condition no disorder.

False.

Is she trying to normalize OSDD? "Oh, that's really not a problem, that's just natural multiplicity. It's healthy!"

DID and OSDD together are called Major Dissociative Disorder and some experts want to combine them, perhaps for DSM 6. The reason to combine them is that many (most?) persons diagnosed with DID are initially diagnosed with OSDD. For DID the diagnosis bar is set really high, higher than for most other conditions in the DSM. It requires observed or reported identity alteration with amnesia; that is two symptoms, both often easy to miss if the person making the diagnosis is not on the lookout for them.

Una+ wrote: and some experts want to combine them, perhaps for DSM 6.

can you point me towards a source about that, I think Asti would love to look into it

Web search "major dissociative disorder" and classification, diagnostic category, nosology, DSM, etc.

Not sure about OSDD, but I am relatively certain very little DID criteria changed (if any). Our T says "nothing that would make any difference in diagnosis" was changed when I'd asked about a month ago.

Rive wrote:So on this other forum I am on this lady claims to be a therapist about 8 hours from where I live a couple states away. She said that DDNOS was changed to OSDD in 2013. I know thats true but she also claims that OSDD now means no condition no disorder. Is she full of sh*t?

Yea just wanted to let you know the therapist you are asking whether she is full of sh*t or not, happens to be my therapist. She did not say there was a change in OSDD she posted that there was a new DSM 5 diagnosis that now applies to *herself* called Other Mental Disorder No disorder No condition. She has OSDD and thought there was a problem related to her own OSDD / Past DID.

She further explained that this new disorder name applied to *her** because she feared one of her *DID* alters was not integrated like the others were. When *her* therapist evaluated *her* the conclusion was the part was not part of any mental disorder problem, Thats why *her* therapist applied the new diagnosis name to her files. Just because she says things happen to her does not mean she is saying that about you or that she is full of s.

I have been seeing her weekly for about a year now. I was just diagnosed DID when I met her. I can tell you she is not full of sh*t. She just does things differently. At first I didnt like her. Unlike other therapists she has expectations / rules like homework. She had DID which means she knows exactly what we all are going through. She keeps up on all the latest changes / updates in the DSM treatments. She goes to professional training seminars/ workshops where she gets lots of great stuff like professional information / treatment ways you cant find anywhere else. last year she came back from a workshop with this brand new batch of books from the authors on this weird therapy called IFS, workbooks and everything.. She has a bookshelf full of all kinds of workbooks and books that any of us clients can look at at any time we want to and pick out something to do if thats how we want to use our therapy sessions. Thanks to how she is doing things with her clients, I have started my own collection of the books we do during our sessions. She fully informs her clients when the changes happen if they apply to them.Shes a great therapist and anyone who has her never has any complaints about her to the state (believe me the first time she had me doing homework I looked her up on the state board of clinical social workers and contacted the ethics board. they told me she had nothing but praise and has actually won state awards.

This new diagnosis she's talking about, I knew about this new diagnosis name for a long time because it applied to me when I thought I was having seizures. After I did all the tests my doctors decided that my seizures were not seizures.

Yea out of the box is how she does things, this past couple weeks, for a therapy assignment she has me checking out a list of online forums to see if I can find one site that has all the following requirements -

1. one that I like,
2 one that has people who have the same problems that I do,
3. one where they don't expect people to diagnose each other, / tell each other things like you are an alter, you are this you are that, you need to post like an alter.

she wants me to focus on not switching because others expect it, and not to be the way others want me to be.she says if I switch thats all well and good but treatment wise the goal is to learn to face my problems instead of running away from my problems. When I dissociate in session its just like any other time I have dissociated outside of therapy, life goes on, its no big deal.

She said its my body, its my brain. no one has the right to tell me whats what in my own body. I / my insiders whether they are parts or they are alters have all the answers that I have questions for, that it just takes time. She doesnt want me to be on forums as a way to go against my treatment goals but to have the forum experience of how forums and real life treatments can work together hand in hand for the good of the client.

I wont be coming online to diss her or to get others to do my homework for me, or diagnose me, but I will come online to share with everyone what I am going through and maybe you all will have some suggestions that I can also take with me to therapy to work with.

Anyway I just wanted you all to know that Im here and that I have been reading for a couple weeks and it really hurt me when I found a post dissing my therapist like this. I dont expect everyone to like my therapist but please if someone isnt your therapist why make assumptions about whether someone is full of crap or not when you havent actually met them, because of something you read online. get to know the person whether its a professional or just another forum member. she may do things differently but Im very glad I got her as my first therapist. she has set the bar high, any therapists I see in the future if there are any will have big shoes to fill.

by the way on this list that I need to check out is Psych Central, reddit, ISSD discussing dissociation, Nami, Healthy place and 5 other places and she also has her own DID forum / chat boards.

You may like her and the way she is treating you, but its not ethical for a therapist to go omline and give people incorrect info! Especially with a group of people who have so much questioning and denial for symptoms. She should know better!
It gives me the creeps thats she 's on forum for people with dissociative disorder and not revealing she has did herself?
I would never have anyone with a very traumatic past and certainly not did treat me as a therapist

Allcoulors wrote:You may like her and the way she is treating you, but its not ethical for a therapist to go omline and give people incorrect info! Especially with a group of people who have so much questioning and denial for symptoms. She should know better!
It gives me the creeps thats she 's on forum for people with dissociative disorder and not revealing herself as a therapist. Especially because she has did herself!

yea I asked her about that. she said she has it listed in her profile, thats the only place the admins there will let her put it. she got in trouble for putting it in her posts.

she didnt give incorrect information, even gave the link where to find what she posted.

I also didnt mention her name. Why, because I dont know her real name. I didn't even use her screen name or even say what forum she was from.