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**TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby Sarandipity » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:57 pm

**TRIGGER WARNING COULD CONTAIN ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING **

There is that enough trigger warning.

So we've read here stuff about people wanting to sexually abuse animals. We've read here about people wanting to sexually abuse children.

What we did not see was anyone here bagging them out about it. And that tells us you people have serious issues. We don't know what and that's tbc.

We post saying that us IN AN ADULT BODY have an alter that identifies with being age 5. She acts age 5. She likes toys and kids films. She also likes the feeling of sex. THIS is terrible to you people here, this is disturbing. This is self abuse. BUT wanting to touch up animals and actual children, well that doesn't even deserve being told off about trigger warnings.


It's more TRIGGERING to you to hear about an ALTER in an ADULT body enjoying sex than it is to hear about ANIMAL ABUSE and ACTUAL CHILD ABUSE.


So after careful considerations we have concluded. It's definitely you lot with the SCEWED MESSED UP IDEAS ABOUT LIFE and not us.

We don't go around wanting to touch up animals and kids. We do let ourselves live our lives.

Mandy likes sex generally, the feeling. Karen likes a bit of pain. Rose likes to be dominant. The guys have gay tendancies because they will join in attraction to some of the men the women like, lesbian fantasies and enjoy the female alters enjoying themselves.

This body enjoys having sex. The alters living in it enjoy sex. EXCUSE US FOR BEING NORMAL HUMANS WITH A NORMAL FEELING HUMAN BODY.

We have one alter who doesn't like it. That's Sara (Mr brightside / the overlord) she can live without it but actually occasionally does like it but mostly doesn't much like touch or eye contact. We don't hold that against her and she doesn't hold it against us that we like sex.


So in short we have concluded we're all good as we are. Not only sexually but in life.

*mod edit* FACT : I AM A GROWN WOMAN.

*mod edit*

Mandy is not an abused child.


Also at age 11 an 18 year old male tried to abuse us. So we slapped him. Told my parents about it and he had to move and not tell anyone where he was going.

At 19 we were drugged and possibly raped. We reported him. We bit him.

My husband raped me. He went to prison.

So AS FOR PROTECTING MYSELF I AM. How many abusers have you reported or done anything about? NONE?? - BECAUSE YOU STILL THINK YOU'RE ABUSED CHILDREN.

*mod edit*

Mandy chooses to stay how she is because it suits her, she's selfish, spoilt and you think she's going to listen to you when she won't listen to any of us SO we're on our own side which includes Mandy who will keep doing what she wants.

You're all hypocrites with very strange views of the world, which is not caused by DID but by this strange notion that if you live pretending you can relive childhood through alters by trying to treat them better that you'll get better *mod edit*

How's it working out for us? Ummm Well we work with ourselves not against ourselves and so far from reading all your stuff, despite you vein attempts to come across as these oh so healed and in control people you all seem far more messed up than us, suffering more and repressed. So screw that, you guys can keep it. And that is all.
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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby TheGangsAllHere » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:12 am

I reported this post, but in the meantime you may want to look at why our (and others') feeling of being disturbed by your 5 year old alter having sex was so disturbing to you.

Other forum members talked of impulses to abuse animals or children, not about actually doing it. Just thoughts and feelings. You spoke about how Mandy, who considers herself to be a 5 year old alter, and enjoys many things that outside 5 year olds do, actually has sex with adult men, and that this was fine with your system. That was what was disturbing.

If your system is fine with whatever Mandy does and you all feel like you're working well together, then no one else can judge that. I don't remember what you brought up that started that conversation about Mandy, but it seemed like it was a struggle within you about whether or not it was ok for her to have sex. If you're all fine with it internally and it doesn't bother any of you, then it's not for anyone outside to judge.

Therapy is only as good as the therapist and whether they match well with the client. I have a good therapist and my life has improved a lot in the past two years since I've been seeing him. It looked great from the outside before that, but now it's improved on the inside as well. And that IS from treating ourselves better and trying to meet the needs of all the parts in healthy and respectful ways.
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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby Rive » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:57 am

Your probably reffering to my posts and thats ok. Let me just say that at no point in my life did I wake up and choose to be the way I am. I never woke up and said hmmm I think i want these bad impulses. I have had thrm since I was 7 years old.
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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby Snaga » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:35 am

Sarandipity;

I can appreciate what you're saying- the bald fact that while Mandy is five, she in fact, inhabits an adult body. I personally see no problems, because of that adult body- from your end. If I were your partner, well, I would feel uncomfortable, but the basic thing- your system is in an adult body- no problem, we get that.

However, not everyone here works the same way. It is going to be disturbing to others. As long as they are, as Gang said, not judging you for what works for you.

But be mindful that a good many people are going to find that disturbing. And that doesn't make them repressed, ###$ up, anything. It just is.

Dnester wrote:Your probably reffering to my posts and thats ok. Let me just say that at no point in my life did I wake up and choose to be the way I am. I never woke up and said hmmm I think i want these bad impulses. I have had thrm since I was 7 years old.


Well you said the magic letters. OCD. I've had harm OCD for... four decades? Longer. Gotta love those intrusive thoughts, yeah?

Thoughts, Sarandipity, are not actions. Something folks with OCD struggle with remembering, ourselves.
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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby SystemFlo » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:04 pm

No. Your pretentious trigger warning is not good enough, it's you acting out, trying to look like a victim. Well you are not.

Now you listen. We have been VERY kind to you. You blaming your damaging ways on the society and on us and trying to change the subject to a lie you just came up with, is just lame and boring. I exist to deal with people like you. Did you really think defenders of every single system can't see WHY you play the crazy-cards and act like a victim? You really believe you are so specially damaged compered to other people? Don't underestimate your opponents.

Mandy is 5, her body is 5, she's emotionally 5. What you and other parts are, is not relevant. So stop lying someone else's grown mind and body would make her an adult. It's a lie, no matter if you happen to like it.

You played the crazy-card, and there was nothing original or intelligent in it. Badly made try to change the subject. You came up with blaming the society and calling people names. For real? :lol: I have to admit I waited a bit more from you.

All systems have been thru stuff, and yet others can behave. And you try to make fun of them because of that? :lol: It's not how world works my love. It will never work like that, because there's people like me dealing with people like you.

I can't say I'm sorry about your guilty trip, truth hurts. We have plenty of sexually disturbed parts and I have kept them all safe. Respect that. I don't care less if you wanna scream and kick and fight and pretend to be a victim. Be my quest. I'm not ashamed of defending children. I don't care if you throw a tantrum because you are not allowed to talk about kids having sex with adults casually.

I don't dance outside at night times. I deal with reality in daylight. Have you ever?

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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby Sarandipity » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:23 pm

TheGangsAllHere wrote:I reported this post, but in the meantime you may want to look at why our (and others') feeling of being disturbed by your 5 year old alter having sex was so disturbing to you.

Other forum members talked of impulses to abuse animals or children, not about actually doing it. Just thoughts and feelings. You spoke about how Mandy, who considers herself to be a 5 year old alter, and enjoys many things that outside 5 year olds do, actually has sex with adult men, and that this was fine with your system. That was what was disturbing.

If your system is fine with whatever Mandy does and you all feel like you're working well together, then no one else can judge that. I don't remember what you brought up that started that conversation about Mandy, but it seemed like it was a struggle within you about whether or not it was ok for her to have sex. If you're all fine with it internally and it doesn't bother any of you, then it's not for anyone outside to judge.

Therapy is only as good as the therapist and whether they match well with the client. I have a good therapist and my life has improved a lot in the past two years since I've been seeing him. It looked great from the outside before that, but now it's improved on the inside as well. And that IS from treating ourselves better and trying to meet the needs of all the parts in healthy and respectful ways.


The why was because we first stated months ago and that's when the judgement started. That led to inner confusion. After recentering we decided we do not care for the judgements of this forum.

We objected to the factual inaugural dismissal of us being an adult and being told how we see things is wrong. We base our actions in fact. Fact we are an adult. Fact talk of *mod edit* child abuse and predisposition towards animal abuse is far more disturbing but that is all brushed aside and our adult activities condemned. We see this as not living in the real world. We stay in the real world using facts: adult body, female body, mandy isn't upset, no outside person is hurt. These are facts. All else is subjective opinion. *mod edit*
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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby xdude » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:16 am

You are using intellect to justify what is abusive to animals and children, this is wrong, and must stop. It doesn't matter if you think it's pleasurable. It must stop now.

Animals and children have no say in this matter, and your needs/wants aren't more special than their's are. I am not triggered, I am disgusted by using intellectual excuses to abuse others.

Lets just cut through the crap bs, you think your wants/needs are more special.

This has nothing do with DID, it has much to do with AsPD types. And you do need others to tell you NO, I won't be abused to amuse that personality.

Has anyone challenged you yet or were you that child who got told whatever you wanted to hear? Is this the first time you are hearing NO?
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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby bejolley2 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:24 pm

Hello Sarandipity
I know I'm going to get alot of flak over what I am going to say, but here goes. Most of us, maybe not most of us have lived through sexual abuse, and we were frighted to beyond what we could endure. Now with this said there is some pleasure even with this horrible experience as explained by my T. Mandy uses the adult body for sexual pleasure sometimes, not the body of a five year old. Is this wrong? Certantly not for me to say, or anyone else for that matter. It is your system that deals with this.
This forum is a place that I had considered a safe place to talk about our lives and what we experience and how we do that within our system. I would not mind someone else telling me that they would do something different than the way I am doing it, but to be lambasted instead of given suggestions is just wrong. Just saying. If you have a T talk to them about this and see what they have to say.
No need to add anything to this post, guess maybe I've said enough to anger others. Be as well as you can and good luck.
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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby SystemFlo » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:01 pm

Xdude and bejolley2. Please, just don't. Don't take sides in things you clearly do not know enough about.

No one is or has been AsPD in this situation, and labeling people with diagnoses that don't match is not very adult way to react. That whole message was about something that has never happened in here, full of misunderstandings. Nobody in here has told they are OK with abusing animals, you made that up yourself. It hasn't happened.

Sarandipity has been treated with plenty of support, patience and care, although we will never support anyone acting self harming ways. In our opinion no one should, even if that self destructive person thinks it's not fair. People don't need someone there to tell them they are right all the time what ever they do, they need someone who cares enough to stop them from doing stupid things. That's what real support looks like to us. Nobody bullied her.

We have shared how we could've done the same thing for Fourteen's system's tweens and littles before, if Sami weren't there, because just like her, we thought it would be just role play to let all those little boys to please adults sexually, just like they fantasize. But it's not role play, when it's an actual little and in our case several of them and a very troubled teenager, all without any boundaries. Back then we didn't know, like she didn't know when Mandy started, they are real kids, not an adult having a role. She has agreed her lifestyle is self destructive, she continues bad relationships etc. by using dissociation as a way to make it possible to continue, but still struggles with needing to change it. That is all understandable, it's a lot to face. And they were doing really great job, until they suddenly decided they are too superior and their way of using DID, instead of trying to heal from all that trauma, is way better than what Ts do.

Why Sami is involved, is because he gets triggered when people talk about children having sex with adults all the time with no trigger warnings, like that was something normal in everyday life. And that's why she was asked by us to put a proper trigger warnings when talking about it. I wrote the message for Sami then, it was his feeling but my words, and we were ready for it to explode, and that's when we decided Sami will handle it himself if that happens. We even told about it to our T then. Well, I did, Sami doesn't really talk with T. It seemed to be OK at first, she even thanked us for the message. Then another member asked it again, or reminded them it was asked before and that's when she got mad. That is when they started calling people names and making fun of people that had nothing to do with them, attacked Dnester out of nowhere, who certainly has nothing to do with this, made fun of people who don't like pedophilia but get triggered about it which is not OK considering this all is happening in a forum for traumatized people, etc. And that's when she needed boundaries, because that behavior is not OK. We will continue keeping up boundaries, and defending people who were (and will be) attacked, until she stops that behavior. We simply don't let her hurt us or anyone else, and if she's gonna send her twins to attack people here, she needs to deal with our defender as well. And today I talked about this with our T again.

No one is gonna hate you bejolley2. It's sad you too make yourself a victim, when nothing has happened, and nobody has attacked you any way either. Defended, if anything.

We hope this will end, and there will be no constant talk about 5 year old girl having sexual relationships with adults anymore, under the eyes of people that should protect her OR there will be trigger warnings in those messages, so we can avoid them all together.

We won't add them to be our foe. It would stop us from seeing those things, but not protect other people. We certainly aren't only ones who think it's not fine, like you said, there's plenty of people in here that have been sexually abused, and I care how they feel like. They have done nothing to deserve that crap from anyone. Sarandipity's system is not the only one in here. Other littles are important too, and we all deserve ours to be safe in here, and all our trauma holders as well. No one has right to trigger them knowingly and cause flash backs to people, because they are too proud to admit child sex needs TW.

They can not talk to their T, they don't have one. At the moment they seem to think Ts are part of the problem and she knows better than anyone how to deal with DID related problems. She even supports other people in here to act on their trauma impulses as well. (Which we will not allow either, just like we didn't when there were outsiders here marketing their self made self help methods that are possibly damaging.)

I don't have anything else to say about this. She got scared and that's sad, but it doesn't justify the behavior. This forum is not about her/them only. We matter too. We'd hope to have someone like I have been for her. I helped them as far as I could and then they decided to attack, so now it's Sami's thing as a defender to deal with them, not mine anymore. My boundaries are not good enough. Sami doesn't care if he's not liked when he does what needs to be done. You can think he's the bad guy in here if you wish, and he will still defend you.

I'm signing out from this thing and moving on to deal with our own problems. If anyone has anything to say, tell it to the bad guy :evil: , he's in charge of this thing. He doesn't attack if we are not attacked.

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Re: **TW** ANYTHING YOU MAY FIND TRIGGERING

Postby bejolley2 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:22 pm

Hi Floralie
I can only say this as I am not an expert in any of this. I have only began therapy 3 years ago, so I don't know very much about anyone elses system. I did not make myself a victim as I was victimized early on in life, I am now 69 and trying to make sense of it all myself.
my response to Serendipity was it was her grown body, she owns it and although she does not have control all the time she has to either accept the happening in her life or try to change alters in her own way, her life, with a T or the best she can without a T.
My statement was not about me being a victim, that is a whole different story. Was only trying to help, sorry you felt different about my statement.
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