Bye bye

We decided to say bye publicly, because we thought maybe someone would want to say bye to us before we go. I can see we were wrong.

This will never happen to us again, because we will stop writing, like we did stop talking couple of years ago. There is no point in doing them. We won't be heard or understood, nothing will change. Reaching out for support always ends the same. No one is our parent or a therapist. Or an adult to us. We need to accept we will never have support and stop searching.

We don't understand why we are in the situation we are in. That's why we don't have anything more to say. We don't understand what most of you are talking about. We see people wishing we would leave as fast as possible and things would be like they used to. We don't remember us hurting anyone and we don't know why we are so wrong.

We still have sex. That is what we are meant for. That is what we are gonna concentrate on until our time has come. That will be what's best for all.

I am very anxious writing in the big people space. sorry if it is wrong.
I dont want Leon and his bigs to leave. I wanned to say that. Leon said we are friends and I dont wanna miss him. but I dont understand all that has been going on here so if it is not good for Leon and the bigs to stay I wanned to say at least goodbye to all of you and that I will miss you and I like playing with you and writing to you and dont want you to go. if you want I'll be always there on the imaginary playground and we can play with magic sand or swing on the swings and I can hold Leon's paw if he wants.
I understand that you have to be safe. and you dont have to stay here for anyone of course. I dont feel so safe here anymore too cuz I dont understand whats been going on and I know people I like got send pms and I dont wanna expose us so we wont get send pms that could trigger...so I'll not be writing here often for some time just reading but that makes me sad.
I dunno what to say else. I'm very sad. sorry!
I hope your bigs take good care of you Leon. and I wont forget that you are my friend!
bye bye from sad Mila and Eli

SolanaceousClub wrote:but I dont understand all that has been going on here so if it is not good for Leon and the bigs to stay
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bye bye from sad Mila and Eli

I dont understand either whats wrong , and why they wants to leave.
They are all liked and well respected by pepole here, and noone wants them any harm from what i know.
-I hope they talks to their T about why they decided to leave..

yeah but I do understand why they want to leave.
we just dont understand what happened before that.
we dont feel safe here as much too. but we didnt see the direct interactions that happend so we can only suspect what happend. thus we dont understand fully what happened. but we share their concerns about the safety here. and the questions that where asked about safety here after the incidents where legit and somehow we feel some are left unanswered. but we cant put all the pieces together. PlanetIcarus saw what happend and asked those questions and they werent answered to their satisfaction - so we understand that they dont feel safe here anymore because of that. and that they want to leave cuz of that.

just because you left the middle part out in your quote of Mila and Eli...I think Mila and Eli didnt mean what you mean.
sorry we'll back off from this thread now.

Sol

To feel and be safe, the most important safe person for you to have in your life is you. That means, if you feel unsafe here then probably you should not be here.

Personally, I feel relatively safe here. I am here, and not in many other online groups of this kind, because the content here is all readable by the public, except for PMs and the (very) occasional post redacted by a site admin, and public disclosure of anyone's name or other personally identifiable information or any PM is not tolerated. Naturally, the rules here create a wall of secrecy around PMs, and naturally that wall of secrecy can be exploited.

Here it is important to note that secrecy is not privacy. There is an old saying: Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. What you share with another person via PMs, in what you may imagine to be the privacy of a 1-on-1 conversation, the other person can use against you.

Part of why I feel safe here is that I severely limit my use of PMs.

I encourage you to save your secrets for your personal therapist, confessor, or other trusted and trustworthy person.

This is making some people feel unsafe: Criminal organizations mind-control the victims keep their secrets. They want to keep their secrets and they install programs for that. That can program cues that cause people to become triggered or self-destruct. Criminals can browse forums like this and trigger their targets this way. I am not subject to this risk and most people probably are not. But some of the forums have red warnings at the top. Maybe something like that would be appropriate on this forum to let people know this could be a risk.