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Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby Omid » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:40 pm

I went to a tdoc years ago and long story short I made an app for today and I had a session.
He said:" your memory is fragmented, I'd say nothing more than that" or something very similar.
He didn't say anything about DID stuff although I made more than enough hints that I think I might have it.
I'm wondering what he might have meant. It might mean that 1. He doesn't believe I have DID or 2. He thinks I have DID but he doesn't believe in DID.
Is there such thing as "fragmented memory, but nothing more that that at all?
He also mentioned "second hand PTSD" meaning that my parents have PTSD and I have it because of them.
What do you think?
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby salted lipstick » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:49 pm

I'm inclined to think he used this phrasing because he wanted to treat you as a person with a fragmented memory rather than as not a whole person (which you are a whole person even if you have DID- seperate parts/people still make a physical whole person in total) , if that makes sense?

So I think with his remark, he was trying to avoid you thinking about what his opinion might be about DID because noticing what is going on for you with transference about what you think he thinks is much more useful to your treatment process.

Some Ts that treat us are more interested in us as a whole people and how to treat the combined sum of our problems rather than delineating which boxes we fit into, as we are all unique and have unique experiences of reasons for our dissociative problems and unique, individual journeys through our treatment. I think he was just highlighting that he saw you as a person with something you might decide you want to work on, and letting you do the rest of the decisions about how you see yourself and what you are facing.
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby Omid » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:56 pm

salted lipstick wrote:I'm inclined to think he used this phrasing because he wanted to treat you as a person with a fragmented memory rather than as not a whole person (which you are a whole person even if you have DID- seperate parts/people still make a physical whole person in total) , if that makes sense?

So I think with his remark, he was trying to avoid you thinking about what his opinion might be about DID because noticing what is going on for you with transference about what you think he thinks is much more useful to your treatment process.

Some Ts that treat us are more interested in us as a whole people and how to treat the combined sum of our problems rather than delineating which boxes we fit into, as we are all unique and have unique experiences of reasons for our dissociative problems and unique, individual journeys through our treatment. I think he was just highlighting that he saw you as a person with something you might decide you want to work on, and letting you do the rest of the decisions about how you see yourself and what you are facing.


Thanks. makes lots of sense. I believe the third point you mentioned is particularly true. I suppose he is trying to treat me as a whole person or at least tried to suggest that I'm a whole person, in order to make me feel as a whole person. and such. if that makes sense.
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby Team78 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:15 pm

Watch out for the split, perfect! It doesn't hurt at all depends on how far you are in your journey. Lol, maybe associate when your there that you smoke? It provokes thought. Be candid about what all is happening that is why journaling is important, bring to session. The play on words does a few things, happy researching, thought provoke, split new alter, actually could ask ? more thoughts, discovery, it could totally be nothing at all . Get a few examples where you do the same "what have you" if ya indeed speak like that. If you read this they will make that happen for you systems do just that you don't have to be groomed for it at all. Not groomed in the sense of what your people do...Weekly session would be great then you get to following the pattern it works better if everyone does it in your community etc....Be careful anything fast or intense comes with a price! But you have here if you understand people here can prepare you on what to do...If your great at damage control then every will be alright!
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby Omid » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:35 pm

Team78 wrote:Watch out for the split, perfect! It doesn't hurt at all depends on how far you are in your journey. Lol, maybe associate when your there that you smoke? It provokes thought. Be candid about what all is happening that is why journaling is important, bring to session. The play on words does a few things, happy researching, thought provoke, split new alter, actually could ask ? more thoughts, discovery, it could totally be nothing at all . Get a few examples where you do the same "what have you" if ya indeed speak like that. If you read this they will make that happen for you systems do just that you don't have to be groomed for it at all. Not groomed in the sense of what your people do...Weekly session would be great then you get to following the pattern it works better if everyone does it in your community etc....Be careful anything fast or intense comes with a price! But you have here if you understand people here can prepare you on what to do...If your great at damage control then every will be alright!

I'm sorry I don't really comprehend what you're trying to tell. English is my distant third language and your writing style is rather poetic and encrypted. And what do you mean with "smoke"? Your writing style is like my anuntie's (read barely comprehensible unless I know you personally)
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby Team78 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:41 pm

Thank you for the poetic complement, I'm not ready is all you should tell the Tdoc!! You aint my parent don't talk that way to your tdoc. In this instance, doc tdoc he runs the risk of being kicked out of therapy...His protective layers are safe for him no need to coax him out to anger or switches not ready for, it is too early!! There is no stability when he does this changing facility filling his system up with people...He constantly has to take up for his character and has to remember why he got kicked out from the previous tdoc working his memories out as well...Keep out and talk right or ignore it his communication has increased.....Ask for translator as well just when you learn enough don't be passive they pick up on that too....I would be jealous if I was you...That is a bad component to this it is indeed abuse....This is for my Temple Episcopal Campus they pick up memories and DID stuff here.
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby Omid » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:53 pm

Team78 wrote:Thank you for the poetic complement, I'm not ready is all you should tell the Tdoc!! You aint my parent don't talk that way to your tdoc. In this instance, doc tdoc he runs the risk of being kicked out of therapy...His protective layers are safe for him no need to coax him out to anger or switches not ready for, it is too early!! There is no stability when he does this changing facility filling his system up with people...He constantly has to take up for his character and has to remember why he got kicked out from the previous tdoc working his memories out as well...Keep out and talk right or ignore it his communication has increased.....Ask for translator as well just when you learn enough don't be passive they pick up on that too....I would be jealous if I was you...That is a bad component to this it is indeed abuse....This is for my Temple Episcopal Campus they pick up memories and DID stuff here.

I speak German to the therapist (I live in Germany), which is my second language and I'm very VERY good at it. I get some of your points and they are valuable but it's YOU I don't fully understand and need a translator for. If someone can explain Team78 to me feel free to do so.
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby Dwelt » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:11 pm

I'm agree with Salted lipstick.

Also, I'm French, but english is a speaking I'm used to read and listen, even if I don't awlays write/speak it well, but I don't get what Team78 means :/
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby perpetuo27 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:31 pm

yes, a person can have fragmented memories, sense of identity, etc. without having DID or any kind of dissociative disorder.

a lot of things affect those, anxiety/panic disorders, depression, stress, etc.

even people without a history of trauma can have memory issues because people remember and process things different just like people have different learning styles. not everyone's brain works in the same way.

i know some people who have had trauma but have an incredible memory of it as well as a lot of their life. so, everyone differs.

if you are that concerned about what the therapist thinks, maybe just ask them to explain what they mean by that and hear what they have to say. then you will know where they are coming from.
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Re: Tdoc: "your memory is fragmented, I'd say no more than that"

Postby salted lipstick » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:05 am

Omid wrote:Thanks. makes lots of sense. I believe the third point you mentioned is particularly true. I suppose he is trying to treat me as a whole person or at least tried to suggest that I'm a whole person, in order to make me feel as a whole person. and such. if that makes sense.


How did you feel about the session overall? Do you think you'll keep going with seeing him?
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