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Re: *TW* Afterlife

Postby Seangel » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:54 pm

ShawTrav wrote:Speaking as any type of death what happens to each alter? If you simply turn into a ghost and float amongts your loved ones, go to Heaven, or get reincarnated as a tree; what do you think happens?
For me I am a Christian and I believe in going to heaven. The only problem is, if we each share a soul, then what would come of us? Would we be integrated and only one person? Would we each be in an angelic body able to still communicate like here on earth? Would we each be our own person, but still somehow connected? I know no one can say for sure, just wondering what your take on this is.


Oh, I like this topic a lot. And the answers have been really interesting.

Well, I believe we are consciousness using a body to live a human experience. I do believe we are all connected and that we are all one (with the universe, with other people, with animals, and plants, and beings from this planet and everywhere): that big consciousness. And through each of our experiences that big consciousness, that we all are, learns and evolves.

When we die, humans in general, I believe we leave this body, and we gain consciousness again of everything we have experienced. We also connect again with all other planes and beings we have forgotten about (astral places, universal knowledge, etc.).

I also believe there are levels of knowledge. So when we die, I believe we can decide what to do next depending on the levels we have reached and our understanding of everything.

In the case of someone with DID, I believe when they die the conception of separateness among alters is dissolved. So when a person with DID dies, I believe all their different expressions of the self are understood by the soul as the experiences in this human life.

I have come to think and understand that it must be the same for that big consciousness I was talking about. As if the big consciousness also had DID (having many parts of the self: us all). So, I believe, that when we die that illusion of separateness, that me is different from any of you, dissolves too.

Now that I write about, I wonder then, what happens really in the afterlife. Because I believe the illusion of separateness dissolves, so I understand consciously that you and I are connected and one. However, I also believe I keep having a sense of "self" or of "me". As in I am able to also decide what to do next (me, whatever me that it is), and to identify "myself" somehow different from the rest.

Hummm...

I've read and talked with friends that some people when they've had close to death experiences they see "welcomers" as from their believes or loved ones. For example, Jesus, Krishna, a parent. So it might suggest that what we believe in influences or is linked to what we see after we die.

I've also read and talked about the different scenarios a "soul" can choose after death. And it seems that the "light" or "pure love" or whatever manifestation it is, it's always a possibility for us to go to. As if we can always choose it. However, due to our experiences, vibration, and so on, we are more attracted to one or any other. So it seems that our paths, experiences, understandings might make us choose different possibilities to live and experience what we must, even if that's not light just yet.

This last paragraph makes me wonder then, if we all need to experience it all in order to evolve? So I need to experience pain, and love; but so does my neighbor, and so on. Or weather when someone (a part of the big consciousness) experiences something, they have experienced it for us all? And we don't need to experience, let's say pain, because that other part of the self experienced it.

Interesting for sure this all.

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Re: *TW* Afterlife

Postby ManyHearts » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:10 pm

I believe that the only thing I will do after death is feed the worms 6 feet deep. Perhaps Katie might come and share her religious talk, she's into that. I'll just stick to making my life worth living, rather than hoping for a better afterlife.

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Re: *TW* Afterlife

Postby ShawTrav » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:41 pm

ManyHearts wrote:I believe that the only thing I will do after death is feed the worms 6 feet deep.


But where is the fun in that? I really just hope that I can teleport around anywhere in the universe I want. That would be pretty cool. I would take a look into a blackhole and visit the surface of VY Canis Majoris and then see if I could find any stars that are bigger. :mrgreen:

Seangel wrote:When we die, humans in general, I believe we leave this body, and we gain consciousness again of everything we have experienced. We also connect again with all other planes and beings we have forgotten about (astral places, universal knowledge, etc.).


I hope this is true as well.
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Re: *TW* Afterlife

Postby Seangel » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:05 pm

ShawTrav wrote:But where is the fun in that? I really just hope that I can teleport around anywhere in the universe I want. That would be pretty cool. I would take a look into a blackhole and visit the surface of VY Canis Majoris and then see if I could find any stars that are bigger. :mrgreen:


Cool stuff. I believe this may be already be possible in other planes. Is this one bigger than Sirius?

Damn... just checked. Much, much bigger. :shock:
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Re: *TW* Afterlife

Postby ShawTrav » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:35 am

Yeah it's just a wee bit bigger lol :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smmNP8G69vc

Watched that video a long time ago and was simply amazed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Eh5BpSnBBw

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Re: *TW* Afterlife

Postby Im-pure » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:33 pm

Seangel wrote:
ShawTrav wrote:But where is the fun in that? I really just hope that I can teleport around anywhere in the universe I want. That would be pretty cool. I would take a look into a blackhole and visit the surface of VY Canis Majoris and then see if I could find any stars that are bigger. :mrgreen:


Cool stuff. I believe this may be already be possible in other planes. Is this one bigger than Sirius?

Damn... just checked. Much, much bigger. :shock:


ShawTrav...you may be able to do that if you still remember you wanted to do it :mrgreen:

Angel...yeah it looks a bit bigger lol
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Re: *TW* Afterlife

Postby ShawTrav » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:40 am

Im-pure wrote:ShawTrav...you may be able to do that if you still remember you wanted to do it


Well I hope I remember. lol.

And I am sure there is an even b igger star that we have not dicovered yet. Our solar system all orbit the Sun, while the galaxies rotate a galatic core in which scientist believe is a black hole, and i'm not sure but if everything is mostly moving outward at different rates of speed, there could be even bigger stars that are simply further out. Or the universe is moving inwards, or not at all. Who knows..

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Re: *TW* Afterlife

Postby Seangel » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:28 am

Im-pure wrote:Angel...yeah it looks a bit bigger lol
:mrgreen:

ShawTrav wrote:(...) and i'm not sure but if everything is mostly moving outward at different rates of speed, there could be even bigger stars that are simply further out. Or the universe is moving inwards, or not at all. Who knows..


Mhm, the universe is expanding, so yeah definitely moving outwards. In his book "A universe from nothing" Krauss talks about it. Here's an image that shows what they saw (tried to post it, but it was too big ¬¬'):

https://mycitymusings.files.wordpress.c ... n_dots.gif

He said something quite interesting too, if I understood him well: that we are at a point in which we were actually able to see the galaxies and stars. That at any other moment in time, future or past, we won't be able to see them, thus, we wouldn't know that the universe was in fact expanding.

Yeah off topic. :D

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