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Re: the new pope advocating Jungian psychoanalysis

Postby Una+ » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:48 pm

I do not think Nelson Mandela ever forgot or swept the past under the rug; forgiving is not forgetting.
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Re: the new pope advocating Jungian psychoanalysis

Postby loise » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:52 am

Una+ wrote:I do not think Nelson Mandela ever forgot or swept the past under the rug; forgiving is not forgetting.


hi Una,
i guess that to me, there can be no forgiveness without a sense of justice....but then during the day I was thinking about your answer and remembered seeing on tv, some kind for court of justice in south Africa, where victims and guilty were confronted, and the power of the words,
I forgive in the part of the victim or or their relatives....having the chance to have a say in the
life of their perpetrator....maybe this step was crucial, to move on, and in many ways it was a moment of justice as well.
thanks! at the end memory needs to be confronted, and from this, draw lessons for the future.
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Re: the new pope advocating Jungian psychoanalysis

Postby T.A. Anderson » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:33 pm

Una+ wrote:I do not think Nelson Mandela ever forgot or swept the past under the rug; forgiving is not forgetting.


They publicly aired their memories of abuse. The South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) was set up by the Government of National Unity to help deal with what happened under apartheid. The TRC was based on the Promotion of National Unity and Reconciliation Act, No 34 of 1995 (pdf)

"... a commission is a necessary exercise to enable South Africans to come to terms with their past on a morally accepted basis and to advance the cause of reconciliation."

Hearings were held regarding individual abuses and institutional abuses. The objective was truth. Their motto "Truth - The Road to Reconciliation."
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Re: the new pope advocating Jungian psychoanalysis

Postby loise » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:38 am

T.A. Anderson wrote:
Una+ wrote:I do not think Nelson Mandela ever forgot or swept the past under the rug; forgiving is not forgetting.


They publicly aired their memories of abuse. The South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) was set up by the Government of National Unity to help deal with what happened under apartheid. The TRC was based on the Promotion of National Unity and Reconciliation Act, No 34 of 1995 (pdf)

"... a commission is a necessary exercise to enable South Africans to come to terms with their past on a morally accepted basis and to advance the cause of reconciliation."

Hearings were held regarding individual abuses and institutional abuses. The objective was truth. Their motto "Truth - The Road to Reconciliation."


hi! I love your answer, thanks!! we had also a truth an reconciliation commission in el Salvador when I lived there ( which sadly ended up with an amnesty law, without giving the victims the chance to have a say) and also in Guatemala, which ended up with the killing of Monseigneur Gerardi. ...but still valid attempts to confront the past!!
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