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The red pill or the blue pill

Postby T.A. Anderson » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:35 pm

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Seangel wrote: I don't know if all the memories will be back, but I do think they are in there. So there's possibility for you to access them.


TheCollective wrote:How is it even possible that I can remember things from the past so accurately and vividly, stunning detail, but can't remember other things at all?


TheCollective wrote:I ought to cherish those memories of good people and good times and I feel guilty and sad cause there's just so many blank spots where memories of the people I love should be. It doesn't really mean that I don't love them does it?


TheCollective wrote:Cause the love that we feel for these people used to be hidden from my awareness until fairly recently. I worry that when they die I won't have much to hold on to and I guess it feels like I let all those years slip away.


TheCollective wrote:how do we explain death to children? How do we even explain something to children that we ourselves can't accept?


TheCollective wrote: I feel like I am supposed to carry them inside me and that my memory of them will keep them alive, but will I even have those memories?


TheCollective wrote:How is fusion achieved? Is it even possible to fully, really be fused, to experience life, identity, feelings, memories past and present, as if we have never been multiple?


TheCollective wrote: Do you think that all those memories will come back? I feel sad cause I don't have them. It seems stupid whining over letting my past slip away, but still continuing to do exactly that in the present. How can we stop dissociating our life away?


Im-pure wrote: For me, i think leaving the past where it belongs is a good thing.


TheCollective wrote: I can't get sad if I need to do this daily life, I can't do both at the same time, and I can't let my life slip away because I'm busy trying to solve DID. But if I don't solve it, life will keep slipping away as well, just in a different way.


Should I take the red pill or the blue pill? Does the red pill really work? Does the blue pill really work? Do I really have a choice?

I'm going to give this some thought.
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby Im-pure » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:50 am

I always wondered what those pills actually contain.
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby T.A. Anderson » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:51 am

What do you think Im-pure, is dissociating leaving the past behind? The collective, I know exactly how you feel. You have gotten to this point because the make believe was not working and you wanted out. You took the red pill, but the awakening is too slow, confusing, and painful. I think you need to somehow get a "fast forward." Have you tried any self hypnosis?
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby TheCollective » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:34 am

Yea I guess I took the red pill. Definitely a choice to leave make-believe-land, but not necessarily current host's choice. Mostly Eric's choice who is our protector/leader/main alter, it being in service of our 'retired' ISH(? or whatever). I've sometimes tried to toy with self hypnosis but haven't tried anything serious. I have tried guided meditation (via youtube) before and many things became very clear all at once. I understand meditation is a form of self hypnosis?
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby Exiled. » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:46 am

Im-pure wrote:I always wondered what those pills actually contain.


I'm not sure about the red pill but the active ingredient in the blue pill is sildenafil. It's a phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitor.

"Why, oh why, didn't I take the blue pill?"
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby Im-pure » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:40 am

T.A. Anderson wrote:What do you think Im-pure, is dissociating leaving the past behind?


Not really...what i meant by leaving the past behind is more like, make peace with the fact i may never remember everything or some things and i kind of became ok with that in a way?
But, the consequences of dissociation keep popping up, and ofc, its kind of impossible to go back to before i knew.

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Exiled. wrote:
I'm not sure about the red pill but the active ingredient in the blue pill is sildenafil. It's a phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitor.

"Why, oh why, didn't I take the blue pill?"


Thats interesting!
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby Exiled. » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:22 pm

Im-pure wrote:
Exiled. wrote:
I'm not sure about the red pill but the active ingredient in the blue pill is sildenafil. It's a phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitor.

"Why, oh why, didn't I take the blue pill?"


Thats interesting!


It was a bad joke and was inappropriate in the context of a serious conversation... (Apologies!) The real life drug that's referred to as the blue pill is Viagra and that's what I was referencing with the ingredients... Whenever I see/hear the Matrix's red pill/blue pill I think Viagra.
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby Im-pure » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:42 pm

Nothing wrong with a little humor from time to time :wink:
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby T.A. Anderson » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:23 pm

No problem here. It helps to desensitize oneself. We can say that blue pill definitely works. But the Matrix blue bill has serious limitations.

First of all you can’t really forget. You’re subconscious mind can only abort your attempt at memory access retrieval. The memories are still there firmly encoded in your brain. And, those memories remain to subconsciously influence your thoughts and behaviors. The particular behaviors can vary depending upon the type of abuse. Dissociative amnesia can also lead to substance abuse.

Secondly, the Matrix pill doesn’t last forever. The same way that your brain knew it would be better for you to forget, it eventually knows it would be better for you to remember. This can be an extremely painful ordeal. I can’t explain this logically but it seems as if the recall experience was more painful than the real-time experience. Why does your brain allow you to remember when it even more painful to do so? Could this have something to do with time . . . left? Or, more likely even though the pain is greater, we are better equipped to handle it?

You're here because you took the red pill.
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Re: The red pill or the blue pill

Postby Blackfrost » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:37 pm

None.
Do i really need to take medication without being sick?
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