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non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby alizhee » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:43 pm

well, i have for all my "thinking" or "consious" life music playing in my head, it actually is one of my earliest memories and i guess earliest way of dissociating.
i remember being like 3 years old and being in this inner world of colours and music playing - like an orchestra. i remember that it made me avoid getting into contact with the real world, for example my name got called and i heard it, but decided not to react, as i preferred to be in the world of colour and music.

well, i still do have music playing in my head, on a daily base.

somehow it feels like "soothing" and protecting (from getting overwhelmed).
it is involuntarily, i cannot voluntarily "put it off".
sometimes it can also be disruptive, when i want to concentrate on something else.
sometimes it is silent.
sometimes i "catch" myself, that i have been dissociated for like an hour with just music playing in my head, like i wake up out of a dream........like i wrote, i have no controll about it.

is it possible to have a "non-human" alter?
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby Rubyscarlet » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:59 pm

I have had this before. Very vivid music that I don't recall hearing from the radio or anything. Not often, but it has happened.
As for other non-human alters, there is a cat in my system. I believe she was created as a protector when I was very young.
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby alizhee » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:12 pm

Thank you for replying, Rubyscarlet.
yes, it is not from the radio, especially when I was very young, because I had no access to music as I was too young, and yes, very vivid as well.
Now it can be from the radio.

I have a cat in my system as well, it comes out regulary, then I am talking in "meouw" to my partner, but he knows to get me "back" quite quickly then.
There is - i guess - another cat, which moves cat-like, goes lying on the floor, liking my hand. it makes good contact with real cats, it connected last week with wild cats in Spain and made them accept lying next to them.

Can the music in my head be an alter itself?
it feels like...
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby Familyof3 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:37 pm

It is most definitely possible :) We have a sentient sword as part of our system among some other strange creatures, so I can't imagine why a being of music can't be one as well.
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby alizhee » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:08 pm

Thank you for replying, Familyof3.
I am in the beginning of knowing about having DID and I am trying to figuring out things.
I have written this other thread about if all alters represent with names and by now I was able to figure outone name: Amy.
I have describing names: the painter, the dancer.
But I also have the feeling, that my dissociation contains non-human parts who act as strongly as alters, maybe because at young age probably I was not able to create persons and give names? (---> I mean like the music, not like the painter or dancer. Maybe also the cat (1 and 2) ?).
I don't know.
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby sev0n » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:15 am

An alter can be anything. In my case the alters all have an appearance that never changes. They don't have an age, but their appearance suggests a certain age. Some looks like horrible monsters, others are bloody and broken kids, some missing arms, legs, eyes, ears, etc..., some are prehistoric animals, some are made up fantasy things, others are objects, and so on.

alizhee wrote: contains non-human parts who act as strongly as alters, maybe because at young age probably I was not able to create persons and give names? (---> I mean like the music, not like the painter or dancer. Maybe also the cat (1 and 2) ?).
I don't know.


The host is an alter, all parts of you that have a sense of the self are alters - or called altered identities. They don't have to have a name, but many will take one so they can communicate with others, either inside or outside. I have many that were not named until their first day as host, even though they had a full inside world for a long time before that.
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby alizhee » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:22 am

Thank you for explaining, sevOn.
I maybe should stop looking for names but looking to what is presenting itself in my system.
Big relief.
The music feels like a host, it takes over completely and until a while ago I did not have the consciousness about what was happening.
It needs no name other than "the music".

-- Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:32 am --

To sevOn:
When the host is an alter too,
what about a "real self", can it even exist (to me I do not have sense of "self")
I described it (experiencing in general) before knowing of DID as "splinters and the room inbetween".
The "room inbetween" is "nothingness".
I call (ed) (yes, still do) the "nothingness" "me", because the splinters come and go and I never know which one will come.
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby AltCtrlDel » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:15 pm

It's definitely possible. I'm a "therian", basically sometimes I feel human and sometimes I feel lupine. Then there's Verumi. She's some kind of spirit or guide, she doesn't come out much, but she has a rich history and helps keep us grounded.
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby alizhee » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:00 pm

Thank you for replying, AltCtrlDel.
I see in you signature, that Verumi is ageless and genderless.
I relate to this in many parts, even in my "main"-host the feeling is age-and genderless in a way. People do tell me I look very young in an ageless way.............and I cannot give an age to myself, it depends on the fragment I am that moment and it can switch very quickly.
But each split took "age away".
As some alters/fragments do not age at all.
And gender: though being female I have no concept of feeling female (I used to ask people what I do have to feel in order to feel female).
Which does not mean I feel male instead.

...........................just feel nothingness...............................
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Re: non-human/animal alter possible?

Postby werewolfhk » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:29 am

I always feel every way about everything. I am male and feel neither, I always assumed that there is no gender mentally, just physically, same with sexuality, just something like hair color. now I know that it is my alters all feeling their way, some of them are female and some are probably gay or bisexual. I have an alter that is like an animal, i dont know what. Just when i run, i get this strong urge to drop down on all fours and run wildly just making sound and just being wild and free. i control it barely, lol. I have a sort of satin god duo alters. I might have a tree alter, i think. I just want to stay perfectly serene in place and never move or do anyhting again, just wait and sit, enjoying existence.

-- Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:29 pm --

I always feel every way about everything. I am male and feel neither, I always assumed that there is no gender mentally, just physically, same with sexuality, just something like hair color. now I know that it is my alters all feeling their way, some of them are female and some are probably gay or bisexual. I have an alter that is like an animal, i dont know what. Just when i run, i get this strong urge to drop down on all fours and run wildly just making sound and just being wild and free. i control it barely, lol. I have a sort of satin god duo alters. I might have a tree alter, i think. I just want to stay perfectly serene in place and never move or do anyhting again, just wait and sit, enjoying existence.
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