Cooperation vs. Integration

so i wanted to know what you guys think. i mean ive seen tribofone's post about using meds to help integrate and such, and i know im a ways a way from working on it, but i really dont want to honestly. it seems sad and lonely. but i wanted to know what you guys honestly though about both.

~jackilyn

Well I don't plan on going for integration (unless it becomes an apparent necessity). It just doesn't seem to have any 'true' upsides to a cooperative system. It has upsides but not enough in my opinion.

I don't personally have any objections to integration (2 fragments integrated with me and Pain gave his memories to Sylph and died then was reborn as Fenrir)

But then again systems can fall into turmoil...

But I plan for cooperation with integration as a last-ditch thing-a-ma-saying-forgot-how-it-goes.

Hi Jackilyn,

since I seem to have inspired this post to a degree just wanted to respond that I don't think integration is necessarily the be-all and end-all - it is definitely a personal choice a system can or cannot make (much like marriage )

Just for the "sad and lonely" part: for me it is nothing like that. I.e. it is not like "I" am suddenly left on my own while everyone else is gone and I have no one to talk to in my head. It actually feels less lonely than before because we are less separate, we are one (some, there's still some alters left "out there" who will need more time and healing).

We don't need to talk that much any more because we can experience each other's thoughts and feelings immediately, without language as a "bridge". No one "died" or disappeared - we have the same consensual decision making process as before, but it works much faster (i.e. instead of having a two hour meeting to talk about what to do, we just fuse all our consciousness streams into one instantly).

We ultimately decided to integrate because we felt that even with the great degree of cooperation we had, everyone only got part of a life. This way, everyone gets all of it. But then we were all communists to start with, so no one was particularly attached to their individual separateness

Another reason was that we wanted to see if our dialectical structural model for integration works - it did, for us at least. We might try and write up the protocol for the use of others who might want to try (I'm fairly sure it would work without drugs as well, only perhaps would take longer). But one thing I've learned from this is that multiplicity seems much more a spectrum rather than an absolute singleton vs. multiple binary. No one is completely unified - it all depends what level of fragmentation is workable for someone while still allowing this person (or the parts of a system) to be happy and content.

Tribeofone; I love almost all your posts I will go be embarrassed now

I m intrigues Tribeofone, and would love to learn more.

About the drugs you used and about the protocol.

Did you do this on your own or with help?

As for integration or cooperation,
my system is mostly in crisis - so it would be nice to find a solution for that. Even with cooperation there is lots of turmoil.

Similar to the last post, I'd like for my system to not be in crisis too. I don't think I want to integrate, I've seen how multiplicity can be advantageous. We're cooperating on some level now I've acknowledged the others and let them know I want to listen and compromise, but some parts are definitely in crisis. Maybe we'd be ok as a group if those parts find healing.

Tribeofone; I love almost all your posts I will go be embarrassed now

please don't! no need to

I m intrigues Tribeofone, and would love to learn more.

I will start a new thread once I get around to it so as to not hijack this one.