Trance logic help?

We can let you know how it turns out like last time, if you want to

Of course! Are you making any progress?

lifelongthing wrote:We can let you know how it turns out like last time, if you want to

I liked hearing how last time worked out... If you're cool with sharing, it'd be cool to know how this time works out too.

-Damone

We'd be happy to share. I'll let you all know when we've tried

So I have been thinking about this - but writing helps me make it more concrete.


You have one alters that guards the trauma memories and no one else has access into the round building where she guards them.


This story has helped me make sense of my first 2 memories ever - after I told myself it was okay to remember - which is when all h@#$ broke loose. What I have done is to get all alters to love, trust and respect each other and the biggie - they are trying to get over the guilt they have due to the great harm they have done to each other! This is all before even getting to the vault of trauma memories from childhood. Along the path we work to let go of jobs that are no longer needed. She is doing an obsolete job. Your system needs to work to understand that you and they will not touch the trauma memories until all are ready and then only in the presence of your therapist. They no longer need to be guarded.


This is a weird dream but what is interesting is that from the start it told me the trauma memories were locked up. This did not occur to me until I read your story! Thank you! My T is not too much into the stories either. He says he has heard so many, but I like to make sense of them - just like you do.

My first 2 dreams - This might help others make sense of their dreams.
Dream by Wicked (Wicki) - ANP
There were people in a building made of see-through material. Huge, ugly snake like creatures were beating on the glass trying to break it. The people inside were terrified, but instead of fighting the creatures or trying to get away they all stood in a circle facing the creatures and held hands as tightly as they could. Later a tiny girl with long ratty hair holding a doll stood and just watched. There were no feelings from her, she was just watching.

Dream #2 by Wicked
I (current host at that time - Jessica) woke from a dream and remembered that I needed to remember it. This was a shared dream between me and Wicki.

I (Wicki) was a super hero and rounded up many people - the ones that hold trauma memories. I tied them all up where they were safe in a net hanging from a tall building. I went in the building and another super was inside - a bad one - Mother Godzilla! I was scared because Mother Godzilla was even stronger than I (Wiki) and she was silver, hooded and and gigantic! She moved like a dragon and there were two smaller versions with her - brother and sister. I was in trouble. I hid. As Mother Godzilla got closer I went inside a trap door - I hid somewhere where I could not be found - even though there was nowhere to go. (dissociation) Mother Godzilla gave up on me but she got young Gwendolyn. (Mother found our body, but I dissociated into another part - Gwendolyn)

I knew I must hide Gwendolyn's new trauma memories, before Mother Godzilla sent out Mother vulture that could read thoughts. If she knew the whole truth she would kill me.

This is where the trauma memories are stored! This is what they were trying to tell me with this story/dream! I went through this all with Wiki again to get it right.

Wicki went to the vault keeper - Glenda (caretaker protector) and told her to take Gwendolyn (EP) far away, to another place and stay with her in a lead vault so their thoughts could not be read by the Vulture. Wicki had to hide and hide her thoughts as well, but she could do this.

In reality - there was great fear. That fear triggered something. My head turned. The nose breathing began and got heavy. The dream - story ended.
(That I now know is Gorilla with the heavy breathing that stopped the telling)

So - bottom line:
So I ask Glenda if she can help you - she says.... She is locked up with the trauma memories too, but she is able to be in 2 places at once. Perhaps your vault keeper can work on doing this.

Thank you for sharing that, Tylas. We very much like to make sense of everything.

I've not written fully about that house.

It has 3 stories. Different people live on different stories. So, hopefully, when/if M is able to get to the 2nd floor, she will be entering Emma's room, going down the stairs into Anya's and then finally down into Eliesa's room/floor (with the additional basement that goes down from Eliesa's space).

Along the path we work to let go of jobs that are no longer needed. She is doing an obsolete job. Your system needs to work to understand that you and they will not touch the trauma memories until all are ready and then only in the presence of your therapist. They no longer need to be guarded.

She is not scared that anyone will touch them or do anything like that. Her job is just to take care of the room and she enjoys this job. It makes her feel safe in her home and she enjoys being down there. It's a sort of mix between a library and a gallery. I believe her job is just to oversee how everything is, make sure things are in order and taking care of everything. It is not just trauma memories, it's where all memories are stored. No one can get to them except her so that is not her fear. The house was just made that way when we were 4 years old, and because we can't change anything on the inside it's stayed that way.

Now we're finding ways around that rule and making steps so that I got home, M will be able to get to Eliesa etc

Thank you for sharing your dreams and sharing that about your system and inner world. It really is so interesting to read and be able to help someone else also on their path to healing.

Kind thoughts,
Lin

Not trying to be a bother or anything, but have you had any luck yet?

-Damone

We've been too busy with other things in the system but we're going to be trying really soon. I was thinking about it and you earlier today actually Thanks for the reminder actually

We'll be trying this over the weekend, now that we finally have the time to really sit down and explain everything to the ones who needs to be explained to (mostly Anya). We'll be updating with how it goes We really appreciate everyone's help

Awesome! Trance logic has made all the difference in my system.

If you got magic, why not use it.