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Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby WhyDoIFeel » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:45 am

I have found the truth of life.

After many times begging the question of the purpose of life, it has become clear to me that there is no objective purpose. With the help of Friedrich Nietzsche (I should have heeded his warning), I have realized nothing we do matters and one way or another, everything civilized man has ever done will go to naught.

I don't want to live anymore, but I won't end my life. That would traumatize my family and friends, and although I know the truth, I wouldn't want the burden of truth on their shoulders.

I am stuck in a perpetual laziness and sadness. Is there any cure?
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Yorkshirelass » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:58 am

With the help of Friedrich Nietzsche

Oh dear.
As much as I admire Nietzsche its not the most jolly book to read.
As you have decided to carry on, put that book in the attic.
Now you must begin to read inspiring, happy type books and replace negative thoughts with positive ones.
If you are going to stay you might as well try to enjoy.
I am stuck in a perpetual laziness and sadness. Is there any cure?

Well I don't know about 'cure' as such, if someone had found a miracle potion that made everyone happy they be a billionaire.
For a start you sound very depressed, have you spoke to your doctor? If not make an appointment A.S.A.P
I take an SSRI and it has helped. I still get the occasional bad day but most of the time I feel OK.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby WhyDoIFeel » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:18 am

Yorkshirelass wrote:Oh dear.
As much as I admire Nietzsche its not the most jolly book to read.
As you have decided to carry on, put that book in the attic.
Now you must begin to read inspiring, happy type books and replace negative thoughts with positive ones.
If you are going to stay you might as well try to enjoy.


But I don't see any possible way of enjoying. I may sound stubborn and belligerent, but now that I have seen the truth I can't see any way of being genuinely happy. Everything is temporary, so why even bother?

Yorkshirelass wrote:Well I don't know about 'cure' as such, if someone had found a miracle potion that made everyone happy they be a billionaire.
For a start you sound very depressed, have you spoke to your doctor? If not make an appointment A.S.A.P
I take an SSRI and it has helped. I still get the occasional bad day but most of the time I feel OK.


I've never talked to a psychiatrist or doctor about my thoughts. I have always kept these things to myself. This forum is the first time I've shared my true feelings. Perhaps I should consult a doctor soon... Again I must say, though, that there is no worry of me committing suicide. I don't have the guts, and like I mentioned I wouldn't want to burden anyone else with the truth.

P.S. Thank you for your response.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Yorkshirelass » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:12 pm

I think you should see you doctor, anti depressants might get a bad press, but nonetheless most people do find them beneficial.
I tried one and it did not suit me at all, In fact they gave me severe and sudden diarrhoea. That was changed and the one I take now works well.
Hey, I've just noticed the sky is blue!
If you do try any remember they can take up to six weeks to work properly.

Yes everything is temporary that is true, but so what.
Mindfulness is good, its not about yesterday or tomorrow its about now. Its about living in the moment, live life like a dog does. Enjoy the day, the moment.
http://oxfordmindfulness.org/about-mind ... /ruby-wax/
I don't think it takes guts to commit suicide, I think it takes guts to carry on.
And I think about suicide most days, I have since I was 11 maybe younger.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby bayliebug » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:52 pm

As you said, everything is temporary. That is exactly why you should continue on with your life and try to be happy. Let the fact that nothing you do "matters" be your reason for completely living it up. Do what you want while you can, because you might not have another chance. Be happy during your limited time as a human being. Realizing that there is no objective "purpose" and that this way of existing is temporary should free you of all fear of judgment and pain.

You'll get past this, but you have to try. Don't be negative all the time. Don't keep saying that it doesn't matter, because it does. Your experience matters. Even if it is gone tomorrow, you still have what you have right now. Enjoy it.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Otter » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:11 pm

I agree with the posts above, please seek professional help. Tell your pdoc everything. I'm glad you have found even the base reason to live. Now build on it.

Nietzsche was only one opinion. The truth is, at this point in time, no one has answered the question to life, the universe and everything. I suspect that one person will never know everything, no matter how romantic the notion is; not Nietzsche, not Heidegger, not Hume, or other people who have the letter H in their name. You believe something is true, but that doesn't make it true. Maybe it's part true, or negative true. Explore other truths, there are plenty to go around. Life is perspective (and maybe something else too).

I say all this because I used to feel the way you did. Then I decided to become my own Philosopher and stopped following some bloke whose sole endeavor was to grow the most outrageous mustache!

Good luck to you -

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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Brassmonkey » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:43 pm

I was severely depressed a few months ago. Always been on and off with depression but this past year took the cake. Ending my life never crossed my mind. Even though life has been kicking me in the balls lately I have to admit that the good times and things in life are well worth living on for. We all have ups and down in life. We all suffer, we all have obstacles that aren't easy to cross. But we can never give up man. Chin up and carry on.
definition of stupid .... knowing the truth.... seeing the truth... yet still believing the lies.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Etzel » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:26 pm

WhyDoIFeel wrote:I have found the truth of life.

After many times begging the question of the purpose of life, it has become clear to me that there is no objective purpose. With the help of Friedrich Nietzsche (I should have heeded his warning), I have realized nothing we do matters


*mod edit* Go back to reading Nietzsche, you have misunderstood him completely. Seriously.
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A book is a mirror: if an ape looks into it an apostle is hardly likely to look out. We have no words for speaking of wisdom to the stupid. He who understands the wise is wise already.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Yorkshirelass » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:33 pm

Etzel
*mod edit*. Go back to reading Nietzsche, you have misunderstood him completely. Seriously.

Oh. I must be a moron too :?
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Etzel » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:41 pm

Yeah, if you also "read" Nietzsche and agree with him, you must.
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