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Postby MattMVS7 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:15 pm

I have autism and severe depression. I stumbled upon something regarding depression and how it kills neurons. I am very disturbed by this information and it makes me depressed all day everyday (it has gone on for months). I feel that my depression experienced from this video is already killing my neurons.

I know that the mind can create new neurons and that if I stay active and healthy that this will help me. But regardless of any of those positive things, this depressive experience continues on all day everyday.

But there is one thing that is highly likely to get rid of this. Which is that if this information has not been proven and that there are scientists with a lot of knowledge who argue against this information.

The only thing that will set me free of this information is that if there is such a scientist. Could someone please find an article or something that argues against depression killing neurons? This will allow me to let go of this information (since, to me, it would be a debate that shows that the information is not proven and that it could actually be false).

This is the video right here:

http://www.thevisualmd.com/health_cente ... sion_video
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Re: Depression Killing Neurons

Postby Asto » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:56 am

MattMVS7 wrote:The only thing that will set me free of this information is that if there is such a scientist.


Why so?
What evidence is there for the claim?
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Re: Depression Killing Neurons

Postby Ian Reynir » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:11 pm

Asto wrote:
MattMVS7 wrote:The only thing that will set me free of this information is that if there is such a scientist.


Why so?
What evidence is there for the claim?


You have a good point here - but I'd add a question, "what difference does it make what scientist find out?" If you loose neurons or not, the scientific information won't change anything going on physically in your brain. It might help to accept that there are some things that you don't have control over and just concentrate on improving your mood. Basically, it may help to forget about neurons and just focus on living with what you've got.
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Re: Depression Killing Neurons

Postby MattMVS7 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:31 pm

Asto wrote:
MattMVS7 wrote:The only thing that will set me free of this information is that if there is such a scientist.


Why so?
What evidence is there for the claim?

Now I do try my absolute best in life and put all my focus into the things I like to do, but this thought completely takes over me on its own all day everyday.

As for evidence, from many sources, it says that stress (excess cortisol) kills neurons (depression is stress and releases this hormone). And judging from the intensity and length of depression I am experiencing from this information, my depression is definitely abnormally high and is continuing on for a very long time and I feel that is already killing my neurons. Again, I put all my focus into the things I like to do and such, but this thought takes over anyway.

Is there evidence against depression killing neurons? Or that it causes the neurons to become less active and die (as explained in that video), leading to even more depression as well as mental impair for me to experience?
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Re: Depression Killing Neurons

Postby bigmike7104 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:19 pm

Is there evidence against depression killing neurons?


i doubt depressions kills neurons, rather depression can change the brain physically somewhat and affect things like motivation, memory, and concentration. but healing from depression will improve those things.

check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity

and

http://www.amazon.com/The-Brain-That-Ch ... ges+itself
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Re: Depression Killing Neurons

Postby MattMVS7 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:43 am

Now why is it that these thoughts regarding depression take over my life virtually all day everyday and never stop? My autism and me having depression already is one of the reasons why I'm depressed about depression itself.

But there is another reason which is my detachment from reality. When I talked to my doctor (Dr. N) about my problem, he just told me to quit worrying about it, make the best of the brain cells I have, and just move on with my life. But why is it that Dr. N is not bothered by my thought of depression? I'm guessing it would be that he is attached to reality like any normal human being unlike me (that practically everyone else won't understand my problem and just frown upon me and tell me to just move on with my life). So his perception is that he his here in reality and to make the best of it and that this information regarding depression is not perceived as a separate reality and that this information is nothing to him.

But this whole concept of "being here in reality, making the best of it, having a purpose, etc." does not exist for me. I realize that science explains everything and is the facts of reality itself (that science is reality). So in other words, this scientific information regarding depression is my reality and I can't escape this reality (I am detached from reality unlike Dr. N).

There are two separate worlds that we can define as a "person." One which is being here in reality, making the best of it, etc. But there is the other (the scientific world) which is that I am just a bunch of neurons and chemicals that die through depression. I realize that neurons are our very being and that when we lose those through depression, that some of my being has been lost. If somehow I could instead view the 1st world as my being (the world that Dr. N and almost every normal human being is in), then I think that would ease this thought and I will then instead of viewing myself as just a bunch of neurons and chemicals that die through depression, that being here in reality, making the best of it, having a purpose, etc. would be my very being (my "neurons and chemicals") so to speak.

But right now, I am not in this 1st world and don't view myself as a person (just what the facts of science are). I feel that the 1st world doesn't exist and that the scientific world is what's real and overrules the other world due to my detachment from reality and from my own personality in that, again, I feel I am not a person--just a bunch of neurons and chemicals that die through depression (even though they can gain back through living a healthy lifestyle).

It is normal for any simple-minded human being to be born into this world and frown upon others through their simplistic perception of being here in reality, making the best of reality, etc., and not understanding the problems and perception of others.

Again, I feel that this world of science dominates over my life of wanting to make the best of what I got and personal enjoyment. Despite me not actually thinking about this thought, the thought still takes over on its own (it's actually an automatic feeling that just keeps happening even though my mind is clear).
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