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fear, frustration

Postby danscott7 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:08 pm

I feel myself overcome with fear and frustration at my disorder. Not feeling any control over my life.
Not understanding life the way everyone else seems to.
How people, completely unaware of the future holds, can still claim to confidently be responsible for their future.
Not understanding how things that change in the world, are brought about by people.
Not understanding how people can change their lives, like becoming a doctor, a lawyer, etc, or making a living based on talent, etc.
Frustrated that I can barely cope with surviving, and that's at the lowest level.
Afraid of what the future holds.
I feel detached from my own environment, and therefore not as in control as I know I should be, and scared as hell as to my future.
Very angry at inadequate mental care, that doesn't seem too concerned.
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Postby Kerry H » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:54 pm

Hi that thing about the future? Here's how I see it... A person is responsible for their own actions, their own behaviour. A persons' actions and behaviour at any given time can shape what their future becomes. So in that way people are responsible for their future. It doesn't mean a person can control their future. It's more about actions having consequences. I say make sure your actions and behaviour in the present are aiming to have positive consequences in the future. X
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Re: fear, frustration

Postby danscott7 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:31 pm

I have to disagree, as controversial as denying personal responsibility sounds.
Actions a person engages in begin in the subconscious, where we have no control. Recent studies have shown that most of the work and decision-making is already done and over with before it reaches our conscious, where it is said we do have control.
These studies have shown we have the appearance of free will, but not actually have free will.
Other studies have shown that when we say we chose this, or we decided that, it is simply the conscious mind attempting to sooth our ego. In other words, our actions are random and out of our control, followed by the conscious mind's attempts to impose a sense of control that isn't there, so we feel more at peace.
Many disagree, perhaps they have studies of their own, or perhaps they don't like to face the possibility that we really have no control as we think.
I agree. You mentioned we cannot control the future, but we can control our actions in the present, and these lead to our future being one thing or another.
I say even in the present there is a point where we ourselves are completely clueless as the actions we ourselves will take.
It seems to me if you were really in control of our actions, we would be able to say I will do this, then that, then this, etc.
I think of this example: there are many innovations that a short time ago we couldn’t have conceived of.

Say there’s xyz device. Now, someone came up in his or her mind with that first. That’s the same mind, the exact same mind, that at one point couldn’t even begin to imagine such a thing. The same mind that creates a physical product, at one point couldn’t even begin to conceive of such a product.
To me that says although we claim to be in control, of anything, we are actually not.
Also, I think of how one person comes up with one thing, and another person another. Why? If we are so much in control, couldn’t anyone come up with anything they wanted?
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Re: fear, frustration

Postby xXvampiregirlXx » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:21 am

ah but if anyone had the same skill and intention to make what they wanted..would they not want different things?
and with the not knowing something of xyz device say years before you make it, you learn of how that device comes to be through your experiences as time goes on throughout those years before.
and believe what you want about how we thing but i think its much nicer not to worry about how we think and how choices come to our mind,planned or not from our subconcience. tyhat is something that always confuses me how people think and how we make choices and such.things that deep can overwhelm me such as the concept of never ending space beyond us and how existance is possible. i believe its much better to just not think about it and just kindof live your life as judgement or instinct calls it.
as far as i know..we do still have control over the choices that are given to us in our concience is that not true?
sometimes things dont work out the way we planned, to live is just to fall asleep, to die is to awake
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