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BPD without "frantic efforts to avoid abandonment"?

Postby van4ssa » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:02 pm

Is it possible to have BPD without one of the main symptoms, (frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment), or is that the core defining issue of the disorder?

Or maybe I don't understand the concept of abandoment issues. Pls explain!
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Re: BPD without "frantic efforts to avoid abandonment"?

Postby Vanna123 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:33 am

I think BPD criteria fluctuates from person to person at diagnosis. There isn't a specific way someone must be in order to have the disorder, but they must have (I believe) 5 out of 9 criteria.
That being said, every person reacts to their criteria differently. I too was confused with the "frantic efforts to avoid abandonment" because I was never clingy or manipulative in relationships. In fact, while talking about this very subject with my therapist, I told her I have the opposite of fear of abandonment. Yes I do become the most alive in an intense relationship and mirror myself to that person's desire of what I think they want, all the while admiring them on the pedestal I've put them on. As soon as I get one small indication that they are about to leave (real or imagined), I immediately find one tiny thing that I actually dislike about them and blow it up until I (very quickly) decide I loathe them and cannot tolerate them another minute. I suddenly break off the relationship for good and never look back.
My therapist told me this was in itself an abandonment issue. I reject them before they can reject me because me walking away is so much less painful than watching them leave me. I really became crystal clear after she told me that. So while I don't think the fear of abandonment is required, it certainly can be there - only masked in differences of our behaviors, beliefs and attitudes.
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Re: BPD without "frantic efforts to avoid abandonment"?

Postby Casper » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:23 am

Vanna's right. While it is a generally a common symptom, there's nothing that says it's a requirement for a BPD diagnosis. If you escaped that symptom, congrats to you!!
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Re: BPD without "frantic efforts to avoid abandonment"?

Postby Winterblue » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:13 pm

I do the same as vanna. Pull people close and am very intense with relationships very quickly. I'm extremely attentive, loving (appear to be but not really sure that I do feel love properly just pretend I guess), sometimes call someone more than 10 times a day. Have to have one particular person I attach myself to either friend, lover or therapist, doctor etc.... As soon as they start to pull way slighly, might be unintentional because they have other commitments or just can't see me when I need them, lie vanna said, I suddenly hate them, cut them off completely and start looking for someone else to do it all over again with. It's better to do it first I guess before they do. Although its extremely upsetting and the older I get the harder it is to keep finding new people to be friends (attach) to.
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