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How many of the 9

Postby Keys » Thu May 31, 2012 8:14 am

do you have? I'm talking DSM criteria of course.

I have 8. I haven't presented with dangerous impulsivity since I was a teenager, and even then it was very brief episodes of drinking. Some of the others are mild for me or only occur during crises. The paranoia is pervasive.

I used to meet a lot of the criteria for avoidant PD but this has subsided somewhat.
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Re: How many of the 9

Postby Caucus » Thu May 31, 2012 8:54 am

Can you list all the 9 criteria and then I'll answer. I don't know them of the top of my head. Thanks :)
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Re: How many of the 9

Postby Keys » Thu May 31, 2012 8:58 am

Sorry, forgot that bit! :)

Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5

A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, excessive spending, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5

Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars or picking at oneself (excoriation) .

Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).

Chronic feelings of emptiness

Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).

Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms
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Re: How many of the 9

Postby Caucus » Thu May 31, 2012 9:04 am

A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, excessive spending, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5

Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars or picking at oneself (excoriation) .


Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).

Chronic feelings of emptiness

Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).

Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms

I have 8 as well. :)
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Re: How many of the 9

Postby leFay » Thu May 31, 2012 9:44 am

7 at the moment, but when I was younger I had all 9.

Also, I tend to circumvent some of them - i.e. you wouldn't guess i had a fear of abandonment because it is chronically me who leaves everyone else - but that's just the way I cope.

OT: Funnily, I discover that my dog is developing more and more of an abandonment issue. I wonder if you can get transference with a pet?
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Re: How many of the 9

Postby Mavet » Thu May 31, 2012 3:24 pm

Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.

A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. (I split like a mofo)

Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging promiscuous sex, excessive spending, binge eating, substance abuse).

Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting.

Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety.)

Chronic feelings of emptiness

Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, recurrent physical fights).

Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation? Possibly. I have this weird, persistent fear of being killed... Is that technically one?

The intensity of my symptoms goes through phases.
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Re: How many of the 9

Postby atomicuniverse » Thu May 31, 2012 3:36 pm

9/9 at a moderate to severe level

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Re: How many of the 9

Postby Casper » Thu May 31, 2012 6:39 pm

Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
Oh yeah.

A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
Yep.

Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
3/3

Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, excessive spending, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
As Vince Neil once said, "Always got the cops comin' after me, custom built bike doing one-oh-three. My heart, my heart, kickstart my heart." Check. No wait, I don't have any money left to pay by check. ..um...do you take AmEx?

Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars or picking at oneself (excoriation) .
Those marks ain't from some freaky chick, so check. Well, most of 'em aren't.

Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
Yeppers.

Chronic feelings of emptiness
Can I get a "hell yeah"?

Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
Nonsense. All of my displays of anger are completely appropriate. Just ask me.

...okay, check.


Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms
Don't think I have this one.

8 out of 9. I'm batting .889! Image

..uh, that is a good thing, right? ...right?
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Re: How many of the 9

Postby MissAli » Thu May 31, 2012 6:54 pm

RIGHT!!!


I currently hit 4 (considered "recovered" at times), but if I'm honest about the "average" feelings I have over a years' span of time, I fit 6. :shock:

Ugh.

I'm less BPD than the rest of you... I'm going to go drink a six pack to compensate myself for my sucky-ness.

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Re: How many of the 9

Postby Rollinginthedeep » Thu May 31, 2012 8:20 pm

7 outta 9.... (or maybe 6 outta 9, depending on how you count it)
I have a pretty strong sense of self (though my old therapist tried to convince me otherwise; i stood firm hahaha) and I'm not delusional (although how does one REALLY know if one is delusional, if one is delusional??), so I'm not those two.

And my self-destructiveness isn't through cutting, but I feel I've channeled it in healthy ways through bdsm over the years (which, technically speaking, can include cutting, but knifeplay ain't my safe & consensual pain of choice usually, and I don't play hard enough to scar).

But all the rest are totally me.

Ali, you may suck but you'd BETTER NOT ABANDON US!!! :evil:

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