Bpd without self mutilation TRIGGERING -Violence

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Not trying to diagnose you but you probably have another PD along with BPD, perhaps AsPD (anti-social). In any case, it's possible to have BPD traits and not the full-blown disorder. Also, self-mutilation is the hallmark of quite a few mental illness, not just BPD and some people with BPD don't self-mutilate (like me, unless you consider four tattoos self-mutilation).

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Who says he has to be antisocial at all to enjoy hurting others? That could be simple sadism, amusement or pleasure gained through harming or watching the suffers of others. I laugh hysterically at violence all the time, I can't help it. He's not the only sadistic borderline in the world, that's for sure. You are correct about self mutilation though, that's a trademark of lots of different mental disorders, not just BPD. I'm glad you don't cut captain, although if you're a person who enjoys causing pain in general, it could get very addicting if you ever start doing it, so I'd advise you to avoid it if you can.

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I am sexually sadistic, my sex partners don't mind it, and some of them request it. I also have sadistic traits in general, like being highly amused by violence and victims being hurt, both in movies and in real life. I am also masochistic in a way too, the only reason I ever cut myself or do anything to cause harm to myself physically is because the pain feels so good. I have a very high tolerance to pain, it hardly ever makes me cry out or feel in shock at all, it feels so natural to me.

I can't relate to this sadism thing at all. Is this more a male expression of BPD or something? Like when someone mentioned possible BPD candidates and they mentioned Hitler and Dahmer. WTF? I don't understand that since it's not how I see or experience BPD myself. Can someone explain this to me?

Sadism is not a BPD trait.
It's a human trait. Humans engage in war and hit each other in bar fights and abusive relationships... Humans enjoy hurting each other... you don't need a mental illness to fall into that category.

BPDers are prone to hurting themselves, along with many other PDs and general mental illnesses.

Sadism is often associated with ASPD (antisocials) because ASPDers are so often demonized by media. Just about any serial killer or mass murdered you can think of was later diagnosed with ASPD... because it's an easy explanation for the actions, more than tehy always fit the bill.

Same thing goes for many historical figures and mental illness. Nero was supposedly Schizophrenic. Hitler was a BPDer. Nothing is conclusive, it was derived from studying their actions, not their emotional states.

I'm with Talula on this, I totally cannot relate to sadism. I find absolutely nothing enjoyable about violence toward anyone. Even capital punishment makes me uncomfortable. Sadism definitely has nothing to do with BPD.

First of all, I have never seen Nero as being Schizophrenic. I've always thought of him as a very Histrionic psychopath. Hitler I haven't read enough about him to speculate, but I know he had Parkinson's later in life. But yeah, I have read from several sources where they labeled him borderline, I just haven't look into it.

Second, Dahmer was labeled borderline because he was very emotionally unstable and also the motives of his crimes were he killed his victims so they wouldn't leave him, he got triggered into killing his first victim because the guy wanted to leave Dahmer's house, and Dahmer killed him so he wouldn't leave him. Two other big name serial killers John Wayne Gacy and Danny Rollins were also both diagnosed borderline, and it's one of the most common PDs in serial killers. We may not like that but most the media just assumes these people are basic psychopaths so the BPD stereotype does not change much because of violent criminals, except when studying borderline men.

Sadism and masochism are equal for me, pain is something I enjoy, directed at myself and at others. It makes me feel happier and more alive, so it's kind of an addiction. I'm sure many people here can relate to having this kind of a relationship with pain.