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Postby coldhands » Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:14 pm

A Amazon book search result shows the vast number of books written on BPD compared to others.

Borderline personality disorder: 5,532 Results
Avoidant personality disorder: 1,013 Results
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder 1,278 Results
Schizoid personality disorder: 1,062 Results
Paranoid personality disorder: 1,166 Results
Schizotypal personality disorder: 960 Results

Because BPD is so commonly referred to as just ‘Borderline’ a lot of the borderline books don’t show up in the search.
When you simply type in ‘Borderline’ it gives 68,269 Results. It is the most researched of all the PD’s im not just making that up. Im not saying they know the solid facts on the reasons behind borderline but they don’t really have solid facts on reasons behind any of the PDs. There’s 1000’s books specifically on BPD clinical research and only 4 on APD research. Even Madonna sang a song about Borderline.

Anyways I wish you luck on your road to recovery.
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Postby bpd_hope » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:13 pm

coldhands wrote:A Amazon book search result shows the vast number of books written on BPD compared to others.

Borderline personality disorder: 5,532 Results
Avoidant personality disorder: 1,013 Results
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder 1,278 Results
Schizoid personality disorder: 1,062 Results
Paranoid personality disorder: 1,166 Results
Schizotypal personality disorder: 960 Results

Because BPD is so commonly referred to as just ‘Borderline’ a lot of the borderline books don’t show up in the search.
When you simply type in ‘Borderline’ it gives 68,269 Results. It is the most researched of all the PD’s im not just making that up. Im not saying they know the solid facts on the reasons behind borderline but they don’t really have solid facts on reasons behind any of the PDs. There’s 1000’s books specifically on BPD clinical research and only 4 on APD research. Even Madonna sang a song about Borderline.

Anyways I wish you luck on your road to recovery.


Amazon book sales is your source? I was talking about governemnt grants, hospital treatments, DMV-IV, and anything that can touch on this.

The reason there were alot of sources on BPD on Amazon book sales (of all places :roll: ) is because BPD is the most theorized disorder out there. There are so many theoroes on BPD that 98% of your search on Amazon book sales is just this, theories.

Ask any therapist, and psychiatrist, and clinician, and any medical practicioner of your choice about the research that goes into BPD, and they'll all tell you the same thing.

On a different note, one thing I hate more than anything is when someone who DOESN'T have BPD, tries to tell us how to live our lives as BPDs, especially whenever someone without BPD knows more about this disorder than someone with BPD.
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Postby Chucky » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:10 pm

It's interesting that it's the most researched (if that's true) because I never hear about it much in literature. If amazon.com is your only source, I have to be skeptical! :)

I've only just read the first two sentences of Wikipedia's description of BPD and can already see how it can be misdiagnosed with a variety of other illnesses. I'm thinking depression and bipolar especially.

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Postby coldhands » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:18 pm

bpd_hope wrote:
coldhands wrote:A Amazon book search result shows the vast number of books written on BPD compared to others.

Borderline personality disorder: 5,532 Results
Avoidant personality disorder: 1,013 Results
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder 1,278 Results
Schizoid personality disorder: 1,062 Results
Paranoid personality disorder: 1,166 Results
Schizotypal personality disorder: 960 Results

Because BPD is so commonly referred to as just ‘Borderline’ a lot of the borderline books don’t show up in the search.
When you simply type in ‘Borderline’ it gives 68,269 Results. It is the most researched of all the PD’s im not just making that up. Im not saying they know the solid facts on the reasons behind borderline but they don’t really have solid facts on reasons behind any of the PDs. There’s 1000’s books specifically on BPD clinical research and only 4 on APD research. Even Madonna sang a song about Borderline.

Anyways I wish you luck on your road to recovery.


Amazon book sales is your source? I was talking about governemnt grants, hospital treatments, DMV-IV, and anything that can touch on this.

The reason there were alot of sources on BPD on Amazon book sales (of all places :roll: ) is because BPD is the most theorized disorder out there. There are so many theoroes on BPD that 98% of your search on Amazon book sales is just this, theories.

Ask any therapist, and psychiatrist, and clinician, and any medical practicioner of your choice about the research that goes into BPD, and they'll all tell you the same thing.

On a different note, one thing I hate more than anything is when someone who DOESN'T have BPD, tries to tell us how to live our lives as BPDs, especially whenever someone without BPD knows more about this disorder than someone with BPD.



Okay first of all many of my family members and friends are therapist, and psychiatrist, and clinician and they all say that the same thing that either BPD is the most researched or BPD alongside Antisocial PD is the most researched.

You want donations on your BPD website because you claim “There is not too much research for this disorder as compared to other disabilities“ and again in another post "There is not alot of research to this disability".
Which is simply not true. I was just helping you get your facts straight.
And as for me trying to tell you how to live your life I don’t know how you came to that conclusion? All I did was wish you good luck in your road to recovery.


Here are a few examples:

“Challenge for Mental Health Services : Challenge for Mental Health Services BPD is one of the most difficult conditions to treat However, it may be the the most common personality disorder seen by adult mental health services. This has led to BPD being (probably) the most researched of all the PD’s.”


http://www.authorstream.com/Presentatio ... owerpoint/

Dr. Steven Allan

Research Focus
Borderline
Antisocial
Much Less Research
Histrionic
Narcissistic
BPD being (probably) the most researched of all the PD’s

http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:WxL- ... +(probably)+the+most+researched+of+all+the+PD%E2%80%99s&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=ie

Most attention on comorbidity between PDs and SUDs has focused on ASPD and BPD, it is also clear that other PDs (in particular, avoidant PD and paranoid PD) are prevalent among those suffering from SUDs.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/n4mr905455g44j10/


Development of Psychopathology: A Vulnerability-stress Perspective
By Benjamin L. Hankin, John R. Z. Abela
Published by SAGE, 2005


“One of the most researched PD’s is Borderline”pg224

http://books.google.ie/books?id=1Fd0Lne ... &ct=result

Document title
Axis I diagnostic comorbidity and borderline personality disorder

“Borderline personality disorder (PD) has been the most studied PD”

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1875432
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Postby DT » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:13 am

coldhands wrote:
bpd_hope wrote:
coldhands wrote:A Amazon book search result shows the vast number of books written on BPD compared to others.

Borderline personality disorder: 5,532 Results
Avoidant personality disorder: 1,013 Results
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder 1,278 Results
Schizoid personality disorder: 1,062 Results
Paranoid personality disorder: 1,166 Results
Schizotypal personality disorder: 960 Results

Because BPD is so commonly referred to as just ‘Borderline’ a lot of the borderline books don’t show up in the search.
When you simply type in ‘Borderline’ it gives 68,269 Results. It is the most researched of all the PD’s im not just making that up. Im not saying they know the solid facts on the reasons behind borderline but they don’t really have solid facts on reasons behind any of the PDs. There’s 1000’s books specifically on BPD clinical research and only 4 on APD research. Even Madonna sang a song about Borderline.

Anyways I wish you luck on your road to recovery.


Amazon book sales is your source? I was talking about governemnt grants, hospital treatments, DMV-IV, and anything that can touch on this.

The reason there were alot of sources on BPD on Amazon book sales (of all places :roll: ) is because BPD is the most theorized disorder out there. There are so many theoroes on BPD that 98% of your search on Amazon book sales is just this, theories.

Ask any therapist, and psychiatrist, and clinician, and any medical practicioner of your choice about the research that goes into BPD, and they'll all tell you the same thing.

On a different note, one thing I hate more than anything is when someone who DOESN'T have BPD, tries to tell us how to live our lives as BPDs, especially whenever someone without BPD knows more about this disorder than someone with BPD.



Okay first of all many of my family members and friends are therapist, and psychiatrist, and clinician and they all say that the same thing that either BPD is the most researched or BPD alongside Antisocial PD is the most researched.

You want donations on your BPD website because you claim “There is not too much research for this disorder as compared to other disabilities“ and again in another post "There is not alot of research to this disability".
Which is simply not true. I was just helping you get your facts straight.
And as for me trying to tell you how to live your life I don’t know how you came to that conclusion? All I did was wish you good luck in your road to recovery.


Here are a few examples:

“Challenge for Mental Health Services : Challenge for Mental Health Services BPD is one of the most difficult conditions to treat However, it may be the the most common personality disorder seen by adult mental health services. This has led to BPD being (probably) the most researched of all the PD’s.”


http://www.authorstream.com/Presentatio ... owerpoint/

Dr. Steven Allan

Research Focus
Borderline
Antisocial
Much Less Research
Histrionic
Narcissistic
BPD being (probably) the most researched of all the PD’s

http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:WxL- ... +(probably)+the+most+researched+of+all+the+PD%E2%80%99s&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=ie

Most attention on comorbidity between PDs and SUDs has focused on ASPD and BPD, it is also clear that other PDs (in particular, avoidant PD and paranoid PD) are prevalent among those suffering from SUDs.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/n4mr905455g44j10/


Development of Psychopathology: A Vulnerability-stress Perspective
By Benjamin L. Hankin, John R. Z. Abela
Published by SAGE, 2005


“One of the most researched PD’s is Borderline”pg224

http://books.google.ie/books?id=1Fd0Lne ... &ct=result

Document title
Axis I diagnostic comorbidity and borderline personality disorder

“Borderline personality disorder (PD) has been the most studied PD”

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1875432


I've been reading this thread and just wanted to add I basically agree with coldhands.

I was going to say what he just posted. Through the years I've done a lot of looking online, including for school and if you check- most of the papers (research) & articles online are about BPD and Antisocial. Try finding something in-depth about HPD, and even though NPD is talked about, theres not much on it.

I have no axe to grind with those with BPD though, so I'm not implying it shouldn't be that way. This could be because of the nature of the destructive oputworkings of ASPD & BPD (one because of their effect on society at large and the other because of their suicide rate). I think I remember also, that both (along with Bipolar) have the highest substance abuse rates as well.

It would make sense that there would be be more research done on the disorders that seem to be taking a large toll on various segments in society (hospitals, police, jails, places of employment etc.) than say APD etc...
Not saying here that BPD (or even APSD for that matter) is more "evil" or is more hurtful to others on a personal level- but rather seem to touch or effect a larger scope in the broader society.

By all means, then just like with purely physical health problems that effect society at large- I do agree more research should be done on BPD & ASPD (and personally, I think NPD- more besides Sam V. ).

As for the "Amazon factor", I think it's a valid example. This is because it seems, first generated is the amount of research by the scientific/professional community and then comes the books produced for the general population (these writers thereby having more to base their writings on about a disorder). I think more books on a subject shows the more interest in a topic & the more information available to back it up.

bpd_hope,
I value and agree with your encouragement of more research into BPD. It's good to try to help alleviate suffering where it's found.
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Postby bpd_hope » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:37 am

Ok then. Very well. You say tomatoe and I'll say TomAto. Lets just agree to disagree.
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Postby Chucky » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:55 pm

When 'arguments' like this develop (where one person will always refute what the other says), it is best to just slip-away from the argument because both of you will only just end-up hurting yourselves. I have had quite a few arguments like this with people on this website, but I am now on friendly terms with such people due to good management of the argument.

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Postby bpd_hope » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:25 pm

Chucky wrote:When 'arguments' like this develop (where one person will always refute what the other says), it is best to just slip-away from the argument because both of you will only just end-up hurting yourselves. I have had quite a few arguments like this with people on this website, but I am now on friendly terms with such people due to good management of the argument.

Kevin


I'm done. I'm not arguing either. I respect coldhands values and ideals. This is why I said we can just agree to disagree, because of the same thing you said, if we continue to beat a dead horse, we'll just go around in circles and circles. This is never a good thing for anyone, especially someone trying to offer hope for BPD. If I can't control myself, then how does anyone else expect to have faith in what I'm promoting. At least that's the way I look at it. Amen and God Bless.
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