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bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby SBBro » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:39 am

Why is it that when I say to a doctor I have bpd they go in to denial and then emphasize the personality part then suggest it's incurable?

The doctor I saw was Buddhist and American and he could not contain his anxiety.

Seriously holy $#%^ this disorder is misunderstood as ###$.
What exactly are they scared of? Do they think we all kill off everyone closest to us when we get bored at night?
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2014 "youve been diagnosed with everything under the sun"
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Re: bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby Bree09 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:48 am

I personally think they are more afraid of the attachment and when they will try to end the sessions, we will turn needy or become attached to them or if we know our own diagnosis, we will be harder to treat. I was seeing a therapist and once i brought it up, he had two more sessions with me and ended it, he tried to convince me i was better and shut me out completely which sucked since I'm only young and i left distraught and not understanding why.
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Re: bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby AutumnLeaves » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:20 am

When I was in inpatient they completely ignored any comment or question I made about BPD they would only acknowledge my Bipolar it was strange and that place didn't really help they dropped me like a hot potato even the social worker ignored my phone calls after I was released. That's why I've just decided to stick with my psychotherapist she's not scared of me ...or so I think.

I have to wonder though if these doctors ever spent time with someone with BPD or they just read some terrible s*** and just don't want to bother trying. I feel like I'm going to get better some day so they can suck it.
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Re: bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby Im-pure » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:19 am

I would think this mostly happens to therapists who are not equipped to deal with BPD...

All the disorders seem to have their own cliche among doctors, makes you wonder what some prefer dealing with. I am also a little frustrated with their lack of knowledge on my own disorder...its hard. Someone said they would diagnose me NPD...when i have DID actually and the NPD like traits are just a part of an alter (so unconsciously, mine too)
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Postby madjoe » Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:07 pm

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Re: bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby Jeff Spicoli » Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:25 pm

BPD is incurable, for all intents and purposes. Docs and Shrinks know this. They also seem to bill by the patient, and not by the hour (I could be wrong), so there simply isn't the effort there to consume a large amount of man-hours for something that really cannot be fixed.

Some here may disagree, but decade after decade nothing changes in this regard... There's nothing they can do.

And this is also why some personality disorders are without question the worst to be inflicted with. Depression can be relatively easily cured, this can be cured, that can be cured, some pills, and you're good to go! Works for the vast, vast majority of patients. They can be controlled through drugs, and a conversation here or there...

BPD doesn't offer this "easy" fix, per se...
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Re: bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby AmorousDestruction » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:16 pm

Jeff Spicoli wrote:BPD is incurable, for all intents and purposes. Docs and Shrinks know this. They also seem to bill by the patient, and not by the hour (I could be wrong), so there simply isn't the effort there to consume a large amount of man-hours for something that really cannot be fixed.

Some here may disagree, but decade after decade nothing changes in this regard... There's nothing they can do.

And this is also why some personality disorders are without question the worst to be inflicted with. Depression can be relatively easily cured, this can be cured, that can be cured, some pills, and you're good to go! Works for the vast, vast majority of patients. They can be controlled through drugs, and a conversation here or there...

BPD doesn't offer this "easy" fix, per se...


That's #######4 and you have no idea what you're talking about. Please think about the people who read these boards. Making sweeping statements that BPD is incurable, despite the fact that every legitimate mental health organization states otherwise is both ignorant and harmful to those who are struggling.

Research shows that over time BPD symptoms markedly diminish, often to the point of where patients are seen as "in remission". In one study, over a period of 10 years, 85% of patients were considered "in remission" from BPD. A good chunk of those patients were considered "in remission" in under 5 years. There is hope for progress and change. There is legitimate hope that things will get better for most people with BPD. I'm sorry things haven't gotten better for you, but that's you not everyone with BPD.

Also, have you ever been on psychiatric meds? If you've been on anything with any serious side effects, you'd take back what you've said about how easy it is to cure depression and other psychiatric illnesses. To be on high levels of an anti-psychotic would be hell. Even dealing with an SSRI can be extremely unpleasant and doesn't always work. Your ignorance is astounding.

To the OP, most of my shrinks haven't reacted too poorly to my BPD diagnosis. Part of it's that I'm in a DBT program but even my psychiatrist is pretty ok with it. I actually haven't run into too much stigma in my daily life. I'm perhaps lucky in that regard. But I did hear a professor say "it's hard to tell the difference between a person with an axis 2 disorder and an asshole" and he was quoting a psych hospital doctor. I confronted him about it and he apologized and was pretty nice, but it was really disturbing that a doctor would say something like that. However, the only thing we can do is prove them wrong. That's why I'm pretty open about my BPD. It was like "I bet you said that because you didn't think anyone with BPD could be in your class, but guess what I'm here and I'm one of your best students." Maybe eventually people will learn from their assumptions when they actually get to know some of us and realize we are more normal and good than they ever thought we could be.
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Re: bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby Jeff Spicoli » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:21 pm

You speak to me like many do when they are first diagnosed.

After 30+ years of living in hell, and consuming every drug known to man in that time period, I really don't care what you think, or how I make "newcomers" to mental illness feel.

I am here to give you the straight up goods, with MY experience with illness. Take it or leave it.
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Re: bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby AmorousDestruction » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:32 pm

Perhaps that's because BPD is better treated with therapy not drugs.

I'm pretty happy on my SSRI and with DBT. I've made a lot of progress emotionally. I'm by no means "cured" but I'm in a much better place and more mentally healthy than I ever have been. Things have gotten better for me and it's only been a year since my diagnosis...a little less actually.

Sure. Give the "straight up goods", but that's a) not correct according to research and b) blood on your hands. Telling a people whose illness puts them at high risk for suicide that they won't get better isn't going to help them either seek treatment or keep going. Spread your misery around if you like, but I'll clarify that your experience is only yours and other people have had better outcomes.
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Re: bpd every doctor's greatest fear?

Postby Jeff Spicoli » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:35 pm

I don't really care what you think.

If meds and talking to people work for you, great! I just wish it was that easy for others...

I AM the others. So, don't try to stuff a Bible in my hand, sing Kum-By-Ya, or whatever other crap you think you can.

Won't work for me.
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