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Re: emotions and decision making---TW--

Postby SBBro » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:11 am

Yeah it works I think, we are crazy enough to believe whatever.

Doctors here are like, okay you're avoidant pd, then no you have ptsd, now your schizophrenic, you're bipolar and each time I was just like okay.

Is dbt gender biased in the US too or just Australia?
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Re: emotions and decision making---TW--

Postby youneverreallyknow » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:27 pm

SBBro wrote:Is dbt gender biased in the US too or just Australia?


I can't answer your question about the US, but how is DBT gender biased in Australia?

If done properly, DBT should be basically the same wherever you do it. They are supposed to follow the exact same structure otherwise it is not the "proven" method. The skills you learn will be exactly the same irrespective of gender. There will be more females in the groups, but then there are more females with a BPD diagnosis, so that is to be expected really. It doesn't mean what you learn is in anyway different as a result.

You know gender bias, if that is what you want to call it, goes in both directions when it comes to BPD. There are so many cases of women who get diagnosed as BPD just because they get a bit moody and irritable, as well as depressed. Then it is like a negative label. So don't think it's just men who are some how hard done by.
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Re: emotions and decision making---TW--

Postby SBBro » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:33 am

The hallmark of bpd isn't mood dysregulation it's fear of abandonment. So you can have bpd with just minor irritability. Doctors kept misdiagnosing me as npd and also testing me for adhd and autism which I would come back subclinical. I Was never referred to dbt in my life except for when I was crying in the ER.

the dbt consists mainly of women because they are seen as victims and men as predators who should be in jail.
even though this is complete #######4.

So just wondering in the us if they tend to want males in the dbt group.
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2014 "youve been diagnosed with everything under the sun"
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Re: emotions and decision making---TW--

Postby youneverreallyknow » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:13 am

SBBro wrote:The hallmark of bpd isn't mood dysregulation it's fear of abandonment.


While I might agree with you in part, that is not how DBT views it. This info below is basically the premise of DBT.

"DBT is based on a biosocial theory of personality functioning in which BPD is seen as a biological disorder of emotional regulation. The disorder is characterized by heightened sensitivity to emotion, increased emotional in-tensity and a slow return to emotional baseline."

DBT treats emotional dysregulation. That's the main focus. You might be a little disappointed if you think it is going to do anything for fear of abandonment specifically.

SBBro wrote:the dbt consists mainly of women because they are seen as victims and men as predators who should be in jail.
even though this is complete #######4.

So just wondering in the us if they tend to want males in the dbt group.


No one is excluding males because they are "predators". The fact is, women are more likely to be diagnosed BPD. So by extension they are more likely to end up in DBT and DBT groups are more likely to have women in them. That is the same I find for EVERY therapy group, because men don't tend to seek help for their problems.

I just did Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. It's not a BPD treatment specifically. In the group, 10 females, 2 males. Why? Because men generally refuse therapy. Will take meds, but don't like to talk about their feelings. It's got nothing to do with who they "want" in the groups. You will come across mostly females in DBT groups. They probably won't spend anytime "coming on to you" as you seemed to suggest in another thread. Hey, the psychologist will most likely be female too because there are more female psychologists generally (for a point of balance more psychiatrists are male). So you'll have to accept that and learn to have respect for them too.

So much of what you write on here is vaguely misogynistic. Being misdiagnosed is not solely a male/female thing either. I was misdiagnosed for years. It's because psychological disorders are hard to diagnose.

I'd imagine it would be exactly the same in the US.
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