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James Foley BPD?

Postby HopelessRomantic » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:13 pm

Do you think that James Foley could have had BPD? "He was a charming and loving person", "he was drawn to the drama of the conflict".

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/james-fole ... -1.2741993

Drama - isn't that what people with BPD are drawn to?
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby AmorousDestruction » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:42 pm

No. I wish my life had less drama. My emotions and brain chemistry don't really agree though.

Do you seriously need to bring that up on here?

I may come off as an uninformed among some friends who are really up on current world events, but there's a reason for it. I don't need more depressing things in my life.

*TW*
Kevin Carter, the famous photographer who captured that shot of a Sudanese child with the vulture circling him as he was starving to death, later committed suicide. We aren't meant to bear the burden of all the suffering in the world. Especially not those of us who already suffer mental illness.

But who cares anyway. Journalists are thrill seekers. You couldn't do that job if you were risk-averse. And some people can care about "drama" that happens to people suffering in other countries without having BPD. And some people are just charming and loving.

It's a useless conversation that just brings up things that make even normal people depressed and distrusting of the humanity and care of other human beings.
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby HopelessRomantic » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:33 pm

Ok, sorry, I didn't mean to bother you with this information. I don't know the case of the journalist that much. I was just curious if people with BPD are attracted to drama in some way. People call them drama queens for some reason. Isn't it because they go where the drama is happening? I have no clue. I am just asking you.

I know one girl who is very dramatic and everything in her life and other people's life is a drama, even when there is really no drama. She just likes the attention from creating it and enjoys when people follow these stories and believe in them. Anyway...

-- Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:38 pm --

I also think there is a need for people who report drama, show the real story. Obviously, people need to know and they need to care about what is really hapenning. But I think that people with BPD might go too far. They are in general very compassionate as far as I noticed, but they might engage in helping others so much that they can lose touch with the reality and they might start creating dramas where nobody really needs anymore drama than there is. Do you understand what I mean?
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby Im-pure » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:44 pm

I believe the ''need'' for drama comes from a place of being used to chaos, to the point where you reject stability for being boring. But, many pwBPD crave stability - they simply don't know how to achieve it.
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby AmorousDestruction » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:19 pm

HopelessRomantic wrote:Ok, sorry, I didn't mean to bother you with this information. I don't know the case of the journalist that much. I was just curious if people with BPD are attracted to drama in some way. People call them drama queens for some reason. Isn't it because they go where the drama is happening? I have no clue. I am just asking you.

I know one girl who is very dramatic and everything in her life and other people's life is a drama, even when there is really no drama. She just likes the attention from creating it and enjoys when people follow these stories and believe in them. Anyway...

-- Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:38 pm --

I also think there is a need for people who report drama, show the real story. Obviously, people need to know and they need to care about what is really hapenning. But I think that people with BPD might go too far. They are in general very compassionate as far as I noticed, but they might engage in helping others so much that they can lose touch with the reality and they might start creating dramas where nobody really needs anymore drama than there is. Do you understand what I mean?


Apology accepted. And I apologize. I'm touchy these days. Bad mood. But I'm always bitchy on here. :)

And sweetie, I'm not a "them". We aren't all the same person. We can share a diagnosis but it doesn't make us the same. I'm picking at a detail here, but for a reason. People who don't have BPD come on these boards a lot slinging information that they've heard about people with BPD or stereotypes. It's not particularly fun to be quizzed about why I might be a certain way or how crazy I may be. It gets annoying. Especially because if you read the board at all you'll find there are a variety of symptoms and how those symptoms play out in the lives of individual people. And despite it being called a "personality disorder" I really am quite different from a lot of people with BPD. Very similar in some ways too. I have a brain that works outside of my diagnosis.

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It's tragic and gruesome. Just for future reference, please try to do a little research first. He was tortured and beheaded. His beheading was filmed. My sister watched it. I couldn't. I don't have the stomach for it. Seeing the capability for cruelty and hatred...I just can't. I have too much faith in people. I'm an optimist about others. Violence and human suffering really get to me. And I imagine it gets to other people too. It's not really great for depressed people. But then again I can't speak for all depressed people.

Im-pure is right. I don't really know how to have calm relationships. Friends tease me about my dramatic romantic relationships and sex life, but I've never really been called a drama queen. Romantic relationships are my trigger. In all other things I'm a calm and collected individual...mostly. I usually don't have drama with other women. Except maybe roommate drama because I'm a slob and don't live well with others. And my last roommate was a see-you-next-Tuesday. But friends usually no. Had my serious friend fight ever a couple months ago. And it was no drama. I didn't bring other friends into it. I just iced her out. I don't look for drama. My anxieties create it.

I seek adventure. I'm a thrill seeker and I'm impulsive. It's another common trait among people with BPD and could be confused for drama seeking. I think most people just want to live happy normal lives.

I don't really get what you mean. I help others because it makes me feel good. I don't have much of a sense of purpose. I don't know how to make myself happy. I think you may be talking about a different kind of drama though. I don't get involved in other people's personal affairs. I'm not really a gossiper and I don't put my nose where it doesn't belong. But I care about the suffering of other people. I'm compassionate in that I have a lot of affective empathy. I don't get involved in the work that I do because I want to stir things up. I genuinely care about the suffering of others.

I know you mean well. Seriously, I do. Most people don't really realize how they can step on the toes of people with mental illness and I'm a person who even when I haven't just been through a breakup gets my toes stepped on easily, so don't take this personally. It just kind of comes off like you're belittling the fact that I care about doing good in the world and telling me I do it to create drama. It's not exactly flattering.
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby WendyTorrance » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:52 pm

Im-pure wrote:I believe the ''need'' for drama comes from a place of being used to chaos, to the point where you reject stability for being boring. But, many pwBPD crave stability - they simply don't know how to achieve it.

Well said.
I wonder where it comes from, didn't experience that much drama with my family.

(I was just discussing this with someone) Some of my friends intentionally spread the drama and to me it's disgusting, really low. A girl fight - and I definitely don't want to get involved.
The constant chaos within me really is enough.
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby thebetterhalf » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:25 pm

Drama and me dont mix. I prefer stability and not choas. Too many years of chaos and it makes you not want it anymore.
Journalist i would say are just risk takers to get the next best info. Or the high they get from going in dangerous places.
You wont see me knowingly go into a dangerous situation.
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby frostfern » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:47 pm

HopelessRomantic wrote:I know one girl who is very dramatic and everything in her life and other people's life is a drama, even when there is really no drama. She just likes the attention from creating it and enjoys when people follow these stories and believe in them. Anyway...

Most cases with mental illness drama is just a way of avoiding pain. Being angry feels better than despairing. It isn't a first choice but something slightly less painful than the alternative. People crave passion, but nobody really craves conflict. They just happen together a lot of the time.
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby HopelessRomantic » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:04 am

frostfern wrote:
HopelessRomantic wrote:I know one girl who is very dramatic and everything in her life and other people's life is a drama, even when there is really no drama. She just likes the attention from creating it and enjoys when people follow these stories and believe in them. Anyway...

Most cases with mental illness drama is just a way of avoiding pain. Being angry feels better than despairing. It isn't a first choice but something slightly less painful than the alternative. People crave passion, but nobody really craves conflict. They just happen together a lot of the time.


I do understand what you wrote about trying to avoid pain. But with some people it is a bit about creating drama to have fun or to take revange on someone. A person with BPD might want to take revenge on someone for something this person did not do intentionally or in that person's understanding there is no hurt involved.
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Re: James Foley BPD?

Postby madjoe » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:17 am

thebetterhalf wrote:Drama and me dont mix. I prefer stability and not choas. Too many years of chaos and it makes you not want it anymore.
Journalist i would say are just risk takers to get the next best info. Or the high they get from going in dangerous places.
You wont see me knowingly go into a dangerous situation.


do you prefer stability but get choas?
(like i prefer to be rich but am not lol)
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