what in the arse are you talking about?

Wondering about the difference between having a reason not to live and not having a reason to live. Don't worry, it doesn't make much sense to me either. Other than there seems to be a definite distinction.

Also - on a related note - I think it's very sad, or pathetic, rather, if the only reason to live is for the benefit of someone else.

That said, and within the boundaries of AvPD, is it possible to reorient yourself and discover a reason to live? Existing isn't living, and it seems kind of pointless to me. I think I could tolerate life much more easily if there was a reason to do it. No clue how to go about it though.

"I" in this moment (me too) knows only the state where a meaning is needed and cannot conceive anything else. So even such stuff as the end of suffering, fear etc. is pictured as embedded in this meaningless frame, and so not worthwhile. While in this state i tend not to pay much attention about thoughts on the meaning of life and so, or at least i try. Said this those two picks wouldn't function bad as a reason while the brain is in a state of need for it.

Once for all as a side note, if i might sometimes sound cocky, it is because I find myself in a state of superiority that is rarely comprehended in places such as this, but i'm ready to get crushed down anytime soon.

Most people's reason to live is ... other people. They have friends they wanna see, family to care about and a job where they have some mates. Avoidants' don't have this desire for other people, and so have no desire to live either.

An avoidant can want to live by having a special someone like a girlfriend/boyfriend/partner - they may be frightened by the entire world, but they have at least one person that they know cares about them.

The reason for living is to breed. It ensures the exsistence of the species.

Go forth and mulitply.

ck2d wrote:Wondering about the difference between having a reason not to live and not having a reason to live.

Same as the difference between -1 and 0. A lack of reason is neither positive nor negative.

However, if you truly didn't have a reason to live, you wouldn't even have to think about it. You can only find a reason to live if you're alive to begin with... so you need to stay alive for long enough to find one, right?