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Re: AvPD vs social phobia

Postby IHaveEveryDisorder » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:21 pm

IHED, that's a spin on CBT that I'd never been exposed to before. My therapist at the time used to get frustrated with me because I'd always report back with no success every session. He'd have me do the same things over and over and over and wondered why I was not becoming desensitized to the situations. There were no 'levels' of exposure...just full-on exposure. Interesting, thanks!


Yeah, I've had the same experience with full-on exposure, it caused the anxiety to get worse. With the Workbook, I am actually seeing myself make a lot of progress.

To give you a vague outline:
- you create a heirarchy of behaviors that lead up to the most complex and most anxiety provoking behavior you wish to be comfortable in eventually, from the simplest (for example, simply going out and saying hi to people)
- you monitor your level of anxiety (it gives precise definitions to 4 different levels), and base when to go up a level, when to down one EJECT. (It explains how to make this decision intelligently so that what you are doing is practical.)
- the concept is that you always want to stretch your comfort zone little bits at a time, but not so that it's overwhelming. This way, you get comfortable with lower levels first, and it makes going up to each subsequent level much easier, just as easy as the last level was, and it's never so anxiety provoking that you can't handle it or think clearly about it all enough to correct any flawed cognitive-behavioral habits there.
- you rehearse each level in your imagination to desensitize to the anxiety it causes repeatedly, before going out and performing that level. Again, it makes it that much more likely that you are able to handle more in the field, and progress faster.
- in my own personal opinion, another reason this is better is because it's systematic, thus you can see yourself working toward your goals rather than wondering ("when do i finally get to be normal and confident", which again perpetuates anxiety). You beat a level, you go to the next one, like in a game. This gives the approach its own internal reward/motivation system, that wouldn't be there otherwise if you're just repeating the same things.

It also gives you a very simple, concise workable cognitive therapy for thoughts which perpetuate anxiety to watch out for in the field, so that you don't hurt yourself with unconstructive thinking:
- the 7 cognitive distortions devised by David Burns, that anyone who's been exposed to any kind of cognitive therapy most likely knows of. (these mostly have to do with self-esteem, which indirectly feeds into anxiety)
- also 4 different cognitive distortions that perpetuate and intensify anxiety specifically, preventing progress (labelled The Worrier, The Critic, The Perfectionist, and The Victim)
- and ways to correct each one in a way that is obviously much more logical when you read about it.
- it does this very simply and concisely. I've always found most cognitive therapy instructions and workcharts to be so overly cumbersome that it's discouraging to have to do all that, and this isn't like that.
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Re: AvPD vs social phobia

Postby GuySmiley » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:19 pm

Thanks IHED, very much appreciative for taking the time to type that. I can't believe I've never seen this book before, I've had so many recommended to me over the yrs. I might head down to Indigo and get a copy today.
I like the way you describe the process like completing levels in a game. It's sure be nice to level up a few times. Maybe even prestige it :)
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Re: AvPD vs social phobia

Postby VenusWillendorf » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:26 pm

There is a Workbook? :shock: Where can I get it?
AvPD - avoidant personality disorder
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Re: AvPD vs social phobia

Postby IHaveEveryDisorder » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:24 am

morph wrote:Hi.

A large part of my diagnosis is AvPD, and, while I can't speak for anyone else with AvPD, I can say that I've tried hard for years to change, so I don't believe what you say is accurate - at least, not in my case.

May I ask what led you to come to this conclusion? (I hope that doesn't sound confrontational when you read it, it's not in any way meant to, I'm just genuinely curious.)


After reading some of the replies, I retract what I said.

It wasn't a conclusion, just my first impression from some of the posts on this forum and also reading the wrong things into "personality" (which I thought referred to the person's intentions rather than being merely an obstacle to what they want).
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