do you suffer some of these problems?

1- mild sadness
2- depression
3- anxieti
4- boredom
5- emptiness
6- laziness
7- almost total lack of friends
8- dependent
9- low sexual desire
10- shyness
11- persistent wish of doing something but never do (ex moving abroad )
12- indecisive
13- alcohol or drugg abuse
14- low self image
15- hasrdly speak with your friends or family
16- day dreaming
17- nighmares
18- obsesive complulsive behavior
19- intense fear of having a accident or something like this
20- little paranoic
21- inmadurity
22- you hate some people but dont know the reason very well
23- Find very dificult to concentrate or stay sit

are these avoidant symtons or it is something worse?

a mix of SA /AvPD, and Depression

what is SA?

social anxiety, similar to avpd.

1- mild sadness => Depends on how I feel. I'd say no in general, but if sad it tends to be very weak but lasts long.
2- depression => Not in general, but it happens.
3- anxieti => Always happens with the depression, otherwise no.
4- boredom => Depends on what you mean. I'd say somewhat yes.
5- emptiness => Pretty much constantly
6- laziness => Yes, but more lack of motivation than laziness. IE: I have no problems doing something I'm asked to, but I'll most likely not do it under my own decision.
7- almost total lack of friends => Yes, but it is a good thing to me.
8- dependent => Absolutely not. Thought I have codependent tendencies.
9- low sexual desire => Yes and no. I'd say I have a normal sex drive, but I have so many doubts weither I want love or sex at all that it tends to be generally low.
10- shyness => No, if by that you mean "afraid of what others think of you". Yes, if by that you mean "having little intentions of going to see others"
11- persistent wish of doing something but never do (ex moving abroad ) => Yes, goes with the lack of motivation
12- indecisive => Yes
13- alcohol or drugg abuse => No
14- low self image => Yes and no. When I feel down I have a lower self image, but it is "normal" in other times.
15- hasrdly speak with your friends or family => Yes, but I just don't like to be dependent or cared about. I feel almost strangled when somebody offers me help or care about me in any way.
16- day dreaming => Constantly
17- nighmares => No. My last nightmares were probably like 10 years ago... Except for one I had last month, but it was due to negative life events.
18- obsesive complulsive behavior => No, but with maybe some "tendencies"
19- intense fear of having a accident or something like this => No, or maybe indirectly. I tend to sometimes depersonalize, and in that state I become so unstressed and unafraid that I become afraid of having an accident out of not having the reflex to react out of sense of danger.
20- little paranoic => No
21- inmadurity => (Immaturity?) No. I think I might be "too" mature in some ways. My sister often tells me that I act and think like a 125 years old.
22- you hate some people but dont know the reason very well => No. I tend to not care about people.
23- Find very dificult to concentrate or stay sit => It depends. Generally no, I tend to be very immobile, but in times of low mood I tend to become restless.

martins wrote:are these avoidant symtons or it is something worse?

Maybe, though I had SPD before and a lot of that list also applies to SPD. AvPD and SPD tend to have a lot of similarities, except that SPDs do not care about what people think of them, and their anxieties tend to not be "fear of not fitting" related. AvPD tends to top the anxiety & depression list, though long-term SPD can also top the depression/anxiety list too.

Yes to all.

AVPD leads to depression, so the simptoms get mixed.

I wouldn't say I "suffer" from them. Doesn't everyone experience all of these at some point in their life? At least a majority of them.

strugglebox wrote:I wouldn't say I "suffer" from them. Doesn't everyone experience all of these at some point in their life? At least a majority of them.

At some points in their life, yeah. But I think he meant it as more of a "constant and never ending" thing.

I, for one, pretty much constantly feel empty and I daydream more than I should. It might be that I am still SPD to some extend, and many of those characteristics overlaps between SPD & AvPD. As for emotions they tend to be "weak but long lived", and they are also very hard to describe. They are also much stronger "about internal things" than "about external things". (IE: I thought I'd be very sad if my father died, and actually felt sad at the thought of it, but when he died I didn't actually feel anything, which bothered me quite intensely since I was afraid people would think I didn't like my father.)

1- mild sadness = Yes, I am like this around 80% of my days.
2- depression = I can very easily fall into depresion if I let myself slip into self pity
3- anxieti = It usually depends, my life is very repetitive so unless there's something that I'm not used to coming up then I don't feel anxiety
4- boredom = Yes, I feel like I'm tired and bored of living.
5- emptiness = Yep, I have felt like this since I began realizing how pointless and impossible my goals in life were.
6- laziness = No. I lack motivation though. But I do what needs to be done without any problem, anything outside of that is another story...
7- almost total lack of friends = TOTAL lack of friends. Not even one. I am lonely as hell... so much that I have begun posting in forums.
8- dependent = I can be VERY dependent if the chance is there. I mean, if someone offers to do something for me I will depend on them to do it unless they're not there anymore.
9- low sexual desire = Normal sex drive but NO desire for sexual intercourse with other humans
10- shyness = It depends, very complicated.
11- persistent wish of doing something but never do (ex moving abroad ) = YES. All the time, I lack any sort of motivation.
12- indecisive = Ughh, I'm so indecisive that it's not funny.
13- alcohol or drugg abuse = No... Never even tasted alcohol because I KNOW that I WILL become addicted. I just KNOW it.
14- low self image = Yes, terrible self-image. Absolutely loathe myself.
15- hasrdly speak with your friends or family = Yes, especially my parents.
16- day dreaming = So much it's annoying.
17- nighmares = No, I never really had nightmares, at least I don't remeber them.
18- obsesive complulsive behavior = Yes.
19- intense fear of having a accident or something like this = No.
20- little paranoic = Well, sometimes.
21- inmadurity = I swing form extreme maturity to acting like a child sometimes.
22- you hate some people but dont know the reason very well = Yep. I judge people. I put labels on them... hard to remove labels. Sometimes I just put idiot labels on them for no reason.
23- Find very dificult to concentrate or stay sit = I can behave most of the time... but when alone and let loose I simply can't soncentrate. It annoys the hell out of me too.

P.S. Didn't you post this on the SPD forums too?

1- mild sadness - Often
3- anxieti - Often
4- boredom - Often
5- emptiness - Often
6- laziness - Sometimes
7- almost total lack of friends - All the time
10- shyness - Sometimes
11- persistent wish of doing something but never do (ex moving abroad ) - Yes I'm in my early 30s but can't even drive yet
12- indecisive - Sometimes
14- low self image - Always
15- hasrdly speak with your friends or family - No, often see my parents
22- you hate some people but dont know the reason very well - Yes, certain specific individuals but my rational side tells me they are not bad people.