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New and pretty sure AvPD

Postby SarKa » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:54 am

I always thought I was just a bit strange, and terribly socially inept. I haven't had a job in about 10 years - I am lucky enough to have a supportive spouse, but he has been pushing me to get a job lately and the thought of it has given me so much anxiety.

So, I started looking at whether therapy could help me - and after some research, I came across AvPD and, turns out, I meet every one of the criteria. So, perhaps I'm not just an oddball...

I do not have a diagnosis - I don't know how, or even if it is productive to approach my GP. I am incapable of showing emotion, or weakness or asking for help and I've grown pretty good at my "everything's fine, I don't need anything" face, so I don't think she will believe there is anything wrong with me. I often say that I could have a limb hanging off and I still wouldn't ask for help.

I am happy enough and functional in my own little bubble - my world is fairly routine, if very lonely, but once I even think about trying something new or meeting new people, I practically can't function. I don't consider my self depressed, but I do have brief bouts of depression lasting a few days at a time. My spouse is the only one who knows I have any issues, and even he doesn't know how bad I can be.

I have no self esteem, no value in my abilities, I don't know how I am supposed to find a job - I have been studying bookkeeping but, I can't imagine getting past an interview.

That's enough babbling for now. I don't know what I hope to achieve here, but it's nice to know there are others out there that experience the world the way I do.
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Re: New and pretty sure AvPD

Postby skyflyz » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:37 am

Hi SarKa and welcome to the forum.

I'm wondering if you might first venture out by volunteering just a few hours somewhere. That won't be easy either... but it's easier than interviewing for regular jobs. Let hubby know you are poking your toe in the waters of employment by first volunteering.

I'm not going to advise you by pointing out ways you can make money without having to challenge yourself. I don't think it helps you in the long run to just find more ways to stay in your bubble.

I started out by volunteering for the Red Cross in an area I had some skills or knowledge in. They kept wanting me to teach classes though :). That would have definitely been out of my comfort zone. Once I had that under my belt I had more confidence in applying for other jobs and I think a large part of getting offers was due to being able to say I'd volunteered for the Red Cross. It's an item for your resume and everybody knows them, plus it was way easier getting that "job" than any other paying job yet it did lead to other jobs. It's also a way to get professional references.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do.
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Re: New and pretty sure AvPD

Postby lilyfairy » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:42 am

Hi SarKa

Welcome to the forum.

Seeking out treatment for AvPD is something that seems very much up to the individual. Some people are resigned to the fact that they'll never be the life and soul of the party and are relatively content on their own. Other people want to try to find better ways to cope with their everyday, including any other disorders that are also in the picture- depression etc. Personally I find the loneliness is the thing that upsets me- that everyone around me has friendships and relationships and I don't. A GP can usually refer you on to someone else for assessment. Diagnosis of a PD can take a while though- it was nearly 12 months before my therapist would firmly say I had AvPD- they need to be able to see that it is part of your everyday and it's not just an episode of something.

I know I wouldn't get past a proper interview. The few I've been through have been a disaster. All of the jobs I've held have been just right place right time, with the "interview" process being very casual and informal and "if you've got a resume can I take a look..." I have a couple of other big things I need to get done first (like sorting stuff with the bank), and then I'm thinking I'll approach a job agency which deals with clients with a disability to see if they can help me find a more appropriate job than my current one. Freelancing jobs online, like proofreading from home have also been suggested to me.

I found having a diagnosis helpful- I am on disability and without the diagnosis it wouldn't have been possible to get disability. It's also helped me understand my own behaviour better- I've spent a lot of time talking with my therapist about why I do certain things and we've been able to draw a lot of connections between my upbringing and the way I react to things now. A lot of those things I can't fix, but understanding them and why they're there has been really helpful.
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Re: New and pretty sure AvPD

Postby SarKa » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:59 pm

Thanks for the response.

Lilyfairy I don't think I could bring myself to share with a therapist - certainly not with a GP - I've become so good at appearing outwardly normal that I don't think anyone would believe me. People just put my quietness down to being an introvert.
For me, while I do fee lonely often, I also take any form of non acceptance as outright rejection of me personally. I convince myself that I must be a terrible person, and no one will ever like me or think me worthy of anything (let alone a job that someone would pay me for)

Skyflyz I have considered volunteering - I think it would be good for me to get some references and stretch my boundaries a bit with out the pressure of feeling like I deserve to be paid for my work. But, I haven't got past my excuses yet. I self sabotage a lot.
Hubby means well by pushing me to get a job, he just doesn't get it - and the pressure has been turned up on me, because he is not too happy in his job right now, but he can't change because he has no financial back up from me. I try not to think about it too much because it spikes my anxiety.
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Re: New and pretty sure AvPD

Postby iabsurdlyexist » Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:49 am

SarKa wrote:Lilyfairy I don't think I could bring myself to share with a therapist - certainly not with a GP - I've become so good at appearing outwardly normal that I don't think anyone would believe me. People just put my quietness down to being an introvert.
For me, while I do fee lonely often, I also take any form of non acceptance as outright rejection of me personally. I convince myself that I must be a terrible person, and no one will ever like me or think me worthy of anything (let alone a job that someone would pay me for)


It was a bit of disappointment for me when I finally had the courage to bring up my self-diagnoses to my psychiatrist and all she said was that I may be a bit shy and that's all. I then pushed for a new psychiatrist and I am now also seeing a psychologist to work through my issues. None of this is easy but you can still get to your destination taking one step at a time.
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Re: New and pretty sure AvPD

Postby lilyfairy » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:29 pm

Most GP's can only diagnose depression and anxiety. I sought help for my depression and anxiety long before AvPD was in the picture. Anything more complex than depression/anxiety is usually diagnosed by a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist. My own diagnoses have all been made by my psychologist- access to a decent psychiatrist has not been possible for me. When I've brought up my self-diagnoses with him, usually in a way of "I was reading about x and a lot of it sounded really familiar to me, what do you think..." we've explored it together, and there's usually been some amount of truth in what I've honed in on. He's never outright dismissed it though.

Also, sharing with a therapist doesn't mean you have to spill absolutely everything within the space of a session. There's a lot of stuff that took me months or even years before I felt ready to discuss with my therapist. Sometimes we might have touched on an issue, but I wasn't ready to talk about it, or he could see I wasn't ready to talk about it and it's been left until another time- some of it even put on hold indefinitely.
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