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Postby hottyfem » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:55 am

Hey want to ask somethıng agaın as usual sorry:D ....ehhh can an avoidant have some schizoid thıngs...Like sometımes when ı am arround people i feel very aloof towards people...and also feel strangeness when ı am around people that i know and dont know...Then i dont feel like talking to no one(the enjoyment goes away)..İ freeze ......Actually i thınk ı mıght be schızoıd too!.... :shock: :? :? .....İ am very obsessed really obssesed if i have a personality dısorder what wıll ıt change ı dont know...there is a problem however it jumps from schizoid from avoidant and from avoidant to schizoid.....Like 2 years ı havent partıcıpated wıth someone (except my famıly)!!!!...Maybe i forget how i used to enjoy social gatherings..untıl ı was 15 ı was ok but then i changed suddenly!....i feel very helpless and dont know what to do !... :? .....................................sorrrryy that ı bother u guys agaın very sorrryyyy!
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Postby Parador » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:27 pm

I have heard other AvPD people say that as they get older they move more towards a schizoid personality.
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Postby hottyfem » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:38 pm

HIMMMMM but ı am 18
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Postby Ak1raK0nya » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:32 pm

I'm only 19 and I realized that I have some schizotypal traits, also. I'm guessing that AvPD can lead to / become SPD, or the symptoms of the two just overlap a lot.
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Postby Parador » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:33 pm

At that age your personality may not even be set. Studies show that the brain does not even fully develop until you are 25. Until then the emotions can be a rollercoaster ride. I remember it could be like that for me.
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Postby Iron Angel » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:17 pm

Parador wrote:At that age your personality may not even be set. Studies show that the brain does not even fully develop until you are 25. Until then the emotions can be a rollercoaster ride. I remember it could be like that for me.


^He speaks words of wisdom.^

But yes, you can have some schizoid and avoidant traits. When I first ran across the disorders, schizoid and avoidant both described me pretty well, but I considered myself more of an avoidant. As time goes on and I work to reduce my social anxieties, fears, and become more comfortable with myself, I feel the shift more towards the schizoid side. Especially the languid schizoid.

http://booksandcoffee.wordpress.com/spd-info/schizoid-subtypes/

I can't remember the site, but one psychiatrist described the schizotypal, avoidant, and schizoid personality disorders as all different forms of "schizoid". Instead of breaking each one down into individual personality disorders with specific criteria, he viewed all of them as different aspects of the same overarching problem. While each were different in some respects, they all had similiar consistent features or could alternate between different traits of one of the more specific disorders at the same time or throughout time.

Check out the updated page on wikipedia about schizoids. There is a lot more information on it now and some of it describes what I was talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid

So yes, it is quite possible that you could have schizoid (as in the specific disorder) features as well as avoidant ones. I know I do.
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Postby hottyfem » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:38 pm

[/b]i am bored of my personality really bored sick and tıred..ı dont know what to do:(...İT takes the control away from me :(...when i was young and now stıll have problems socially:(...i want to overcome thıs but when ı read that ıt wıll never change %100 percent i feel so down:(......do u every feel like thıs?....Really ı am tıred and depressed!i wish there was a magıc wond that would change us..:(:(:(:(
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Postby Gsf-600 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:32 am

Iron Angel wrote: As time goes on and I work to reduce my social anxieties, fears, and become more comfortable with myself, I feel the shift more towards the schizoid side. Especially the languid schizoid.

I read the page about it. If I had to categorize myself in one of those, I'd go in the affectless for these reasons:
-I can only remember the many times death striked around me at school and work, upsetting everyone and I didn't see what the big fuss is about. I just thought: Gee, $#%^ happens, let's go on.
-When good things happens to those around me I so don't care that I have to purposely act like I'm happy for them instead of genuine feelings like other have.(or their acting is way better than mine)
-I feel worst when I see animals suffer than humans...
-Fearlessness on the road, with agressive animals, with fire, etc.
-I take some dramatic stories on the news in a very light, even laughable way.
-I always talk to people when I have something precise and concrete to ask. Rarely "how are you" or "getting to know you" chit-chat, when I do it it's out of a big effort to be nice.
-Some told me of being too "down to earth".

Well, I won't post a novel here but the reasons could go on and on. It's not necessarily a bad thing since schizoid behavior keeps you out of depression(most of the time) and even makes you find amusement in every things in life(even innapropriate ones). Still, I miss too many schizoid symptoms to be in their club..
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Postby Ak1raK0nya » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:46 am

Gsf-600 wrote:I feel worst when I see animals suffer than humans...


Me too. Strangely enough, I feel worse when I see PLANTS "suffer" than humans, generally speaking. When I first realized that, it freaked me out.
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Postby Iron Angel » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:57 pm

Ak1raK0nya wrote:
Gsf-600 wrote:I feel worst when I see animals suffer than humans...


Me too. Strangely enough, I feel worse when I see PLANTS "suffer" than humans, generally speaking. When I first realized that, it freaked me out.


As do I. I cringe when I see plots of forests cleared for housing subdivisions but found the virginia tech shootings aroused nothing in me, maybe mild amusement at best. I also have much more empathy for animals in pain than humans, sort of. It's kind of hard to explain actually. It fluctuates between cold indifference and sympathetic empathy, depending on the medium, person (or group of people), and type of suffering. While in the case of an animal (usually just "higher" forms of life, not arthropods, mollusks, bacteria, etc...) it is constant.

I actually exhibit characteristics of all the schizoid subtypes, but I feel as if I have the most in common with the languid. Possibly remote & depersonalized in second.
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