What is the cause of heterosexual teleiophilia?

People always speak about the causes of pedophilia, homosexuality, zoophilia and so on...

But I have never read/heard anyone who discussed the causes of heterosexual teleiophilia, the most common sexual orientation in humans.

If it's true that most men are attracted to adult females of the opposite sex and most women are attracted to adult males of the opposite sex, then there must be something in the brain of most males and females which determines this attraction, and this variable must be obviously related to sexual differentiation of the brain (in other words, this variable changes according to the sex of the person, and is atypical in persons who have an atypical orientation).

Before to understand the reasons behind homosexuality, pedophilia and so on we should understand the reason behind heterosexual teleiophilia.
Then we will be able to understand how an alteration of this variable can cause atypical sexual orientations.

p.s.: for people who don't know the terms, heterosexual teleiophilia means "attractiont o adults of the opposite sex". (teleiophilia is attraction to adults, the opposite of pedophilia)

Hahaha. As soon as I saw that you posted this thread I thought of my other post, and then you linked it

It seems to be the general consensus that what causes heterosexual teleiophilia is a combination of biology and psychology.

For biology things like the levels and types of hormones present in the womb affect the sexual orientation of the fetus or baby depending on what stage of the pregnancy. The absence of the mutation of genes and other chemicals from the environment too.

For psychology it would be a healthy psyche or one absent of psychological issues that could influence sexual attraction in a drastic way. The absence of severe trauma and mental disorders that affect how a person can have their emotional and sexual needs met.

Mustelidae wrote:For biology things like the levels and types of hormones present in the womb affect the sexual orientation of the fetus or baby depending on what stage of the pregnancy. The absence of the mutation of genes and other chemicals from the environment too.

I know this theory, but as far as I know this theory is about homosexual teleiophilia. Was it used to explain pedophilia too?

I think there is a logic. Many people think that the word "sexual orientation" must be used only to express the preference for one sex, and therefore pedophilia could not be considered a sexual orientation.
Now, let's suppose that what they say is valid: sexual orientation is an attraction to a sex, and not towards a morphology as I always say. Pedophilia is still a part of the sexual orientation. Why? Because it is wrong to say that the concept of "adult" and "child" has nothing to do with the sex.

A boy is not simply the miniature of a man and a girl is not simply the miniature of a woman. THe difference between a child and an adult of the same sex stays in the level of sexual differentation too: prepubscent girls are less feminine than women and prepubescent boys are less masculine than men.

I read that many girllovers think that girls are more feminine than women, but this is wrong. They confuse "sweatness", "innocence" and "childness" with "femininity".
There is an interesection between femininity and childness, but they are two different concepts.
Femininity means boobs and hips, things that prepubescent girls don't have.

So, what the conclusion?

If it's true that heterosexual teleiophilia and homosexual teleiophilia have to do with the virilization of the brain, then pedophiles stay in the middle: they are not attracted to femininity, neither to masculinity.

By the way the theory we are speaking about is not THE reply to the question of the thread. It is only a reply which opens other questions.

Why do plane fly? Because they have wings. Yes, but why do wings develop lift?
We still don't know what is that things in the brain that drive most persons towards a primary attraction to adult people of the opposite gender.
We only know that this variable might be influenced by the virilization of the brain, to the sexual differentation.
And by the way, where does zoophilia stay??

For psychology it would be a healthy psyche or one absent of psychological issues that could influence sexual attraction in a drastic way. The absence of severe trauma and mental disorders that affect how a person can have their emotional and sexual needs met.

What does it mean "healthy psyche"? What are psychological issues? What is a mental disorder?

Religious bigots will tell you that "it's because of reproduction".

Let's see if one day SCIENCE will find the truth. Until then, we can only wait and pity bigots.

I'm not a scientist but I always saw it the same way that dogs and other animals are attracted to each other, by smell. You know how in twilight the wolves and vampires can smell each other and they hate the scent of each other? I always joke around and say if I could smell white men they would smell disgusting to me.(I only date black men) I could have sworn I watched a show about this once but maybe I made it up lol

A part of what determines homosexual teleiophilia is to do with that prenatal hormonal theory. However abnormal hormonal levels help cause homosexual teleiophilia. Normal levels help cause heterosexual teleiophilia. I haven't heard of it being used to explain pedophilia but it might be possible in some cases.

Dita wrote:I'm not a scientist but I always saw it the same way that dogs and other animals are attracted to each other, by smell. You know how in twilight the wolves and vampires can smell each other and they hate the scent of each other? I always joke around and say if I could smell white men they would smell disgusting to me.(I only date black men) I could have sworn I watched a show about this once but maybe I made it up lol

Humans secrete pheromones in order to attract mates. Pheromone compatibility plays a big part in falling in love. Love is just chemicals in the brain and pheromones really.

Healthy: in a good physical or mental condition; in good health.
Psyche: the human soul, mind, or spirit (we can just go with mind)
Psychological: of, affecting, or arising in the mind; related to the mental and emotional state of a person.
Issues: personal problems or difficulties.
Mental disorder: A mental disorder, also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life (disability), and which is not a developmental or social norm. Now obviously we need to leave pedophilia out as a mental disorder that influences the development of pedophilia.

There are many cases of pedophilia where emotional issues have been the cause. It hasn't been something from birth or genetic. There are also many cases where it really does seem like it was from birth or something genetic.

Quite a few pedophiles have had abnormal grey matter as well but that study only used convicted sex offenders.

ElKahn wrote:Religious bigots will tell you that "it's because of reproduction".

This might be the reason, but not the explanation we are looking for in this thread.

We do plane fly? Because flying is utile.

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Dita wrote:I'm not a scientist but I always saw it the same way that dogs and other animals are attracted to each other, by smell. You know how in twilight the wolves and vampires can smell each other and they hate the scent of each other? I always joke around and say if I could smell white men they would smell disgusting to me.(I only date black men) I could have sworn I watched a show about this once but maybe I made it up lol

We are not insects.
Do you think that pc monitors relase pherormones?
https://www.google.ch/webhp?sourceid=ch ... F-8#q=porn

In humans the main trigger of sexual attraction is visual.

While humans are highly dependent upon visual cues, when in close proximity smells also play a role in sociosexual behaviors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheromone#Humans

In other words, pherormones play a role in human sexuality, but they can explain alone sexual attraction.

So, the correct statement is: most humans are attracted to adult of the opposite sex because they are attracted to their morphology.

But this is not THE reply.
Why do plane fly? Because they have wings.
Ok, but how do wings develop lift?

Mustelidae wrote:Mental disorder: A mental disorder, also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life (disability), and which is not a developmental or social norm.

Wow! Psychiatrists and psychologists are really creative!

What is an illness?
When a machine doesn't work properly, in the expected way, mechanicals say "this machine is broken" or "this piece is broken".

People have created a word, illness, to indicate a situation where our machine, the human body, doesn't work properly. Human body is a machine, but it would sound offensive if a medician would tell you "you are broken" , and so they created the word illness which sounds a little more polite.

Human psyche is abstract. It's not a machine, and therefore can not be broken.

Definition of machine: a machine is a tool containing one or more parts that uses energy to perform an intended action

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine

Human psyche is not a machine, because no one knows what is the "intended action".

Mental illness are a social construct.
Society expects e certain type of behaviour and attitude from each individuals, and when an individual is out of the scheme, they say he has a "mental illness" or a "mental disorder".

Now, let me see...

"I feel bad" ---> 10 carachters

"I have a problem" ---> 16 carachters

"I have a mental disorder" ---> 24 carachters


Ok, I think I will continue to use the first and the second sentence, because they are shorter and are not meaningless.

Psychologists and psychiatrists are like nazists: they think they have the power to determine how a person should/must be. At least nazists had a good logo. What do psychiatrists and psychologists have?

p.s.: the exclusive situation where "mental disorder" is not meaningless are the cases of persons who are totally detached from reality. The so called "crazy people".

and which is not a developmental or social norm

If a social norm is stupid and senseless, to be out of it is a merit.

Mustelidae wrote:There are many cases of pedophilia where emotional issues have been the cause.

You are free to speak about them. Citation required.

Citation is not required. This is not an academic journal. People are entitled to hold views and opinions without having to qualify them.