Why many Aspies don't value country and religion?

In my personal experience most people I knew with asperger's not only find patriotism pointless, but many even outright are anti-American (or anti-British, anti-French, anti-whatever). Some of them even want to move out of their country and go to any other one, regardless if its Afghanistan, Nigeria, Canada, whatever. Yes some of them hate their countries so much they would gladly move to a 3rd world one just to stay away from home.

In addition I also noticed a disproportionate amount also are irreligious to the point they think religion is not but silly superstition and a good number of these anti-religion aspergers actually want to destroy religion once and for all.

OF course not all aspergers peopl are like this. I have a brother with aspie and he's the most patriotic guy I know (though he still fits the irreligious criteria). A few people in my Church with aspie read the Bible daily before bed.

But I notice compared to the general population, the percentage of Asperger people who don't care about their country and who are apathetic to religion (I didn't even know apathetic was a word until an Aspie literally yelled to me that is how he felt about religion at best lol).

Don't they realize how'd quickly they'd get eaten alive if they were transported to say South Africa?

I even knew aspies who are willing to anger their entire family line just to openly show they are anti-religion and as a result are outcasted from their familial groups (and even hometowns).

i'm sure that most aspies have a sense of not belonging, due to their social isolation. and what better way to give vent to that than to be anti this that and the other. but i don't candidly think this is an aspie think any more than it's just a byproduct of how they relate to society. other people, for other reasons, no doubt have similar views.

I have AS and I hate my country. I'm not sure why this is. It could be because I associate it with stupid people or because I've never been really happy here or because most of my 'special interests' are linked to travelling, nature, history etc. and there isn't much of those things here. It's even that severe that I don't want a job here and I desperately try to find a way to get away from here as soon as possible. I have met a great deal of ppl from other cultures and they're way more tolerant (esp. bhuddists). The sooner I can get away the better.

I'm not religious but I believe in life after death and I respect people who are religious. I don't like those who call religious people ignorant or stupid.

Aspies understand the world and society in a very different way than NTs. It makes them inept to fit the society, they feel rejected and thus might start hating the society. Moving to a different country might help but usually only in a short-term, since after a while Apsie/NT differences strike back.

Religion has many social rules that are often strictly enforced. Again, asipes don't understand these rules, so they develop aversion against the religion at some point.

I think it's easy to dislike your country if you think about it as people. If you think about it as land then you don't. I love my country, not so much a lot of the people in it.

Maybe because patriotism is based on emotion and not on logic.

Logically different countries can be good and bad at different things. No one country can be the best at everything, believing so is being brainwashed. If aspies are less brainwashed, good on us!

SauronineKnight wrote:In my personal experience most people I knew with asperger's not only find patriotism pointless, but many even outright are anti-American (or anti-British, anti-French, anti-whatever). Some of them even want to move out of their country and go to any other one, regardless if its Afghanistan, Nigeria, Canada, whatever. Yes some of them hate their countries so much they would gladly move to a 3rd world one just to stay away from home.

In addition I also noticed a disproportionate amount also are irreligious to the point they think religion is not but silly superstition and a good number of these anti-religion aspergers actually want to destroy religion once and for all.

Several factors here. One: consider the age group of the people who are like this. Their views are really not that uncommon for people under 30 or so nowadays. Religion is just flat out unpopular among a variety of demographics. However interest in spirituality sans religion is on the rise sharply.

Wanting to move elsewhere is a common "grass is greener" syndrome. Almost any ostracised group will demonize their immediate environment. Sometimes it is valid. Having a fascination with different lands is a common special interest for many with Aspergers; because the sound of a distant place where things are somehow "better" and "different" is appealing. It's a form of escapism. And really, they're generalizing massive countries. Any country has different places within it that are appealing or less appealing. Blaming all problems on the state is just silly. Even the smallest cities have varying cultures contained within it.

From a personal perspective, I find it hard to believe that my country is some shining example of righteousness whatever it may do, which is pretty much what patriotism demands.

During the cold war, it was easy to view world politics in simple black and white terms. On the one hand, the west was the good guy, freedom democracy, etc., and the eastern block were the evil empire that spied on their own citizens, manipulated public opinion, etc..

Now however, it's become clear that there really is no good guys vs bad guys battle going on and, in reality, international politics is a complex web of national and international interests as countries vie for influence and access to resources in a rapidly changing world. One persons Ukraine annexation is another's imposition of a right wing dictatorship in a south American country with the inevitable deaths and disappearances that result.

Once you start to see past the posturing and mud slinging in the media, the world becomes a very different place.

As for religion, I was raised as a Methodist but lapsed and began to question the whole notion of a creator. There are just too many logical failures in the notion of a single, divine creator for me to cope with but, oddly, I do miss the comfort factor. The notion of s*** happens is so much easier if it's s*** happens because God has a plan and that's part of it.

Like someone above said though, there's no real point in attacking people if they do believe. They obviously have their own reasons and that's for them to question if they feel the need to do so.

Seems a bit pointless to me. It doesn't make sense that a group of people are automatically better because they were born on a certain land mass. Or that I should be proud of some people more than other, despite the accomplishment, because they were born in the same area as me. The boundaries between countries only exist in the human mind.
As for religion, I don't see how anyone could claim to know the truth for sure and people tend to create situations and stories that benefit themselves, which leads me to be extremely distrustful of it.