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control and manipulation?
by Maenad » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:42 am
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Re: control and manipulation?
by orion13213 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:01 am
It really depends on the individual. There are so many variations and permutations that go into the final result of personality and behavior. Just like with other PD's, no two people with HPD will behave exactly the same.
With regard to Millon's HPD subtypes, the Disingenuous HPD would seem to be most likely to be manipulative and controlling, whereas the Appeasing HPD subtype would not.
With regard to Millon's HPD subtypes, the Disingenuous HPD would seem to be most likely to be manipulative and controlling, whereas the Appeasing HPD subtype would not.
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Re: control and manipulation?
by orion13213 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:22 am
Specifically, quoting from Wikipedia, Histrionic Personality Disorder
"Theodore Millon identified six subtypes of histrionic personality disorder. Any individual histrionic may exhibit none or one of the following:
Appeasing: features of dependent personality disorder and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Infantile: features of borderline personality disorder
Theatrical: overtly dramatic, romantic, and attention-seeking
Tempestuous: negativistic (passive-aggressive) features
Vivacious: the seductiveness of the histrionic mixed with the energy typical of hypomania
Disingenuous: features of antisocial personality disorder"
So with respect to rating for control and manipulation one could rate the subtypes:
Disingenuous/highest liklihood of being controlling and manipulative/ 6
Vivacious 5
Tempestuous 4
Theatrical 3
Infantile 2
Appeasing /least liklihood of being controlling and manipulative/ 1
also Important to also consider the inverse, i.e., many HPD's are they themselves victims of control and manipulation:
Appeasing /most likely to be a victim/6
Infantile 5
Theatrical 4
Tempestuous 3
Vivacious 2
Disingenuous/ least liklihood to be a victim/ 1
Anyhow, just my interpretation; others are welcome.
Recovering or some self-aware HPD's would naturally be excluded from being controlling and/or manipulative, or victims of same.
"Theodore Millon identified six subtypes of histrionic personality disorder. Any individual histrionic may exhibit none or one of the following:
Appeasing: features of dependent personality disorder and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Infantile: features of borderline personality disorder
Theatrical: overtly dramatic, romantic, and attention-seeking
Tempestuous: negativistic (passive-aggressive) features
Vivacious: the seductiveness of the histrionic mixed with the energy typical of hypomania
Disingenuous: features of antisocial personality disorder"
So with respect to rating for control and manipulation one could rate the subtypes:
Disingenuous/highest liklihood of being controlling and manipulative/ 6
Vivacious 5
Tempestuous 4
Theatrical 3
Infantile 2
Appeasing /least liklihood of being controlling and manipulative/ 1
also Important to also consider the inverse, i.e., many HPD's are they themselves victims of control and manipulation:
Appeasing /most likely to be a victim/6
Infantile 5
Theatrical 4
Tempestuous 3
Vivacious 2
Disingenuous/ least liklihood to be a victim/ 1
Anyhow, just my interpretation; others are welcome.
Recovering or some self-aware HPD's would naturally be excluded from being controlling and/or manipulative, or victims of same.
Be tolerant of others, but true to yourself. In supporting you, I try to offer common sense. PM me if you need to.
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