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Part suffering with mania?

Postby matryoshkadoll » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:52 pm

I wrote another post titled 'Abusive part, headache and sickness' about a part who I have problems with. I am conscious with A, as well as another 5 parts for some of the time – I do not know how much of the time because of A.

The problem is she talks all the time and prevents me and other parts talking through 'sitting' in our place. She also forces herself to front in order to purposeful do things to annoy me eg. She will force a front, change the TV channel and then sit in my place and say 'oh why is it on the channel'. I will know I have lost time and am then aware of her trying to mind control me – she knows I know this but continues. Other examples of the things she does is taking control of the body and smacking me in the head, doing visualisations of scary things and thought blocking me.

She is trying to prevent me from functioning at all, and through fear of her forcing a switch and behaving in a anti-social way, I am worried about leaving the house.

When she learns something new about herself and why she may be being abusive she will stop talking all the time for a while, but then she will just start again.

Is it possible that she suffers from mania, OCD and thought disorder? I am starting to think she may be suffering from Bi-polar – is this possible when the rest of us are 'ok'? She seems to be a sociopathic at times but when she stops for a while (at the moment a few hours a week) she will sometimes cry. But this crying will last for a few minutes and will most often then lead on to her abusing me and the other parts again 24/7.

I am at my wits end with all of this now and everything my therapist suggests doesn't change anything. The underlying issue seems to be that A doesn't actually want to change – she actually thinks that I am not 'normal' and that she is.

Has anyone had experiences with an uncooperative part? Also, has anyone had experience talking medication to calm a part when they are co-conscious with the ANP who doesn't need medication?

I am now quite depressed and drained by all of this whilst she is manic – although Bi-polar is alternating episodes of this, could Bi-polar meds calm her?

Please share any similar experiences with co-consciousnes, parts suffering from mental illness, taking medication, or your thoughts on what's happening for me...
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Re: Part suffering with mania?

Postby Greg » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:51 am

I have "someone" behind me that is doing the same thing. I keep hearing its voice. I always used to hear its voice but I thought it was just myself talking to myself which was normal, but now that I focus on it it's really not normal because it talks very loud, comes out of nowhere sometimes, and says many things that offend me. and seems to be getting louder.

I have that EXACT same fear that prevents me from wanting to work or step forward in my life. Which is putting a huge strain on my family right now. Klonopin really lets me ignore all or most of this person. Or just MUSIC. Music makes EVERYTHING go away when i'm listening to it. The exact and specific reasons why I wont know until I get into therapy or just think about it myself introspectively.

It keeps saying derogatory things and names. (Particularly the N word) and keeps telling me that I'm an idiot and I keep hearing its laughter. Whenever I think of this person and where it has been in my past most of the memories are looking at myself from the side or the front and they are from my old job that I am trying to get back at the moment. I can hardly ever put myself in its eyes.

I had a splitting headache last night from calling an old employer and its almost as if that person and me were having a fight to be out front and there was no one up front. I started to feel like I was floating (Derealing) then my head felt like it was splitting in half.

Oh wait, you're the same person that replied to my post! lol, I was about to give you the same grounding exercises you gave me.

It always forces me to do OCD things. One of them is (Squaring) things. I have to push my diaphram a bit and blink to the left of an object, to the right of an object, followed by another diaphram push and a blink to the left again. Recently, its been making me do rapid blinking.

Its RIGHT behind me trying to force its way out. Its almost made me run out of the house i'm living in right now to be homeless, it also almost made me break out of the psychiatric facility I was in last week.

Idk, sorry I can't help with anything but I understand exactly how you feel. Maybe we can just chat about it and help each other out.
Dx ADHD, Manic Depression (as a child) Unefficiated Schizophrenia, Anxiety DNOS (Adult)

Rx Risperdal, Visceral, Celexa, Klonopin
Still haven't had a dissociative diagnostic interview done.
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Re: Part suffering with mania?

Postby niva » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:03 pm

Read this thread:
dissociative-identity/topic126280.html
especially the link that was posted half way down. The answers to your other questions should be there.

Niva is helped by Prazosin (as needed) and Abilify (overall)

As for alters with different temperaments taking the same med...

Abilify (atypical antipsychotic [we've never suffered from psychosis]) helps me the most, and niva, ninchen; Aiden obsesses MUCH less; it has no effect on Sonja; not sure about jane.

Prazosin (my 'chill pill' that isn't a psych med), again, helps me, niva, and ninchen the most; it has no effect (other than a stuffy nose) on the others.

Me, niva, and ninchen, need meds the most (hyper-arousal stuff mostly - I can list off various diagnoses if you want).

Wellbutrin (stimulant/anti-depressant) helps me get through the winter (it's the difference between me being 'normal' or in a catatonic stupor). It triggers niva when we increase the dose (so we give her prazosin). Unfortunately it does nothing for Jane's MDD :(. It probably makes Sonja more excited. Doesn't affect ninchen or Aiden.

SSRIs make us worse.
-Big N (usually grounded/OK/the host)
-little n (depressive child part; aka 'Jane')
-Aiden (obsessive/thinker part; no feelings)

Integrated:
-Sonja (preteen; happy/optimistic/good girl/social part)
-niva (teen; aggressive/frantic; lust/passion)
-ninchen (brave child; 9)
-Cedar (spiritual part)
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Re: Part suffering with mania?

Postby niva » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:13 pm

As for the possibility of an alter being bi-polar. It definitely is possible.

For us, if you look at us as a singleton, we could easily be misdiagnosed as a rapid-cycling bipolar (with Jane's depression and niva's/sonja's/ninchen's hypomania [anger/excitement/fear] - or with my seasonal affective disorder). None of us are bipolar though.
-Big N (usually grounded/OK/the host)
-little n (depressive child part; aka 'Jane')
-Aiden (obsessive/thinker part; no feelings)

Integrated:
-Sonja (preteen; happy/optimistic/good girl/social part)
-niva (teen; aggressive/frantic; lust/passion)
-ninchen (brave child; 9)
-Cedar (spiritual part)
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Re: Part suffering with mania?

Postby matryoshkadoll » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:54 am

Hi,

I spoke with my T last night and she would really rather I stayed of meds. Having spoken with my GP the night before, she prescribed Clonazepam again, but I will be using this for when things get too much before speaking with her again.

I will make an appointment with my GP and ask about taking Prazosin rather than Clonazepam, as the latter can be addictive. Thank you so much for sharing what has been helpful for you.

Having thought about everything again, it seems that all these symptoms A has is down to trauma but her maladaptive coping mechanisms do resemble the symptoms of many other disorders and illnesses such as ADHD, mania in Bi-polar and OCD.
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