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Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby lifelongthing » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:35 am

Do you ever hear yourself talk in a voice you don't know who belongs to? I mean, one thing is when someone else is speaking.. But I was talking, and all of a sudden I heard my accent and voice change, but I was still saying the actual words I had wanted to say. I tried to stop the accent and body language that accompanied it, but I couldn't control it.

Then a while later someone was out, I don't know who as I wasn't watching at all and Nin's SO told me we had the same body language and accent as I had had earlier. We knew where everything belonged, knew how things worked in the apartment etc. Is this an alter or was it just us being influenced or something like that? The voice and accent change has happened several times over the last two days.

Not too long ago (a week ago perhaps) we talked to a girl who had the same accent as I all of a sudden had. Could it be that we were just using the same accent for some reason? (it's not an accent that is neither very foreign nor very close to us - it's the same accent used by many posh/preppy people).

Anyone have any experience with this?

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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby tomboy24 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:09 pm

I haven't (because I'm all-knowing, MUWAHAHA! :lol: ), but I know everyone else in here has.

This sounds like how Cassandra became aware of Marie. She was using self-talk to try and help keep herself calm and grounded, and then she suddenly noticed she was/had been speaking in a country accent. That's when Marie started saying stuff like "It's alrigh'", and comforting Cassandra, letting her know that the different voice was just her(Marie) and that everything was ok and stuff.

I've heard that awareness of an alter has happened in ways similar to what you describe for most of our system. Lynn was noticed because Cassie was laughing differently and sometimes acting differently; Kat was noticed due to her different voice and different posture/actions; even I was noticed to some degree by Mike because he was watching/listening to Cassandra interact with him and said "This isn't you. At least, not really you" (I was seeing if I could "reach" the "outside", and I was a little Foamy-influenced and slightly energetic :P ).
(Oh, and thanks for my awesome knowledge of knowing everything every other alter does, I also know where stuff belongs, how the apartment is, etc., despite being "new". Not every alter has to be "taught" everything, or brought "up to date" on everything).

So, you're not alone in these experiences, and this does sound like an alter coming "forward". As for the accent (foreign or not), it could simply be something you both identify with, or perhaps you were influenced by it at some point, or perhaps you were around it a lot at some point, stuff like that. It'll probably get clearer/make more sense over time. Perhaps try talking or writing to this possible alter? Or asking Nin's SO to try talking to them about themselves? I know a lot of our information on some of our alters has been gained through Mike talking to them and asking them questions when they're out.


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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby sev0n » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:13 pm

Do you ever hear yourself talk in a voice you don't know who belongs to?


Yes, if I don't recognize the voice I ask who it is. If this does not work I ask others who it is. Freaky huh!
The voice and accent change has happened several times over the last two days.


I am not sure of the answer, but as to this above.... I find that a few of my alters might begin with a certain accent or voice and it does indeed change. (this they agree to) I think they want to be unique from the others, and are trying out things. (this they REALLY agree to) They could also be influenced by others inside. (this they are not so sure about)


Not too long ago (a week ago perhaps) we talked to a girl who had the same accent as I all of a sudden had.


That makes total sense (says my little Hope! as she is laughing and giggling). She just liked that accent so she took it silly! :D :D :D :D
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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby lifelongthing » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:58 am

So, you're not alone in these experiences, and this does sound like an alter coming "forward". As for the accent (foreign or not), it could simply be something you both identify with, or perhaps you were influenced by it at some point, or perhaps you were around it a lot at some point, stuff like that. It'll probably get clearer/make more sense over time. Perhaps try talking or writing to this possible alter? Or asking Nin's SO to try talking to them about themselves? I know a lot of our information on some of our alters has been gained through Mike talking to them and asking them questions when they're out.

Thank you for answering :)

The accent definitely suits the way we (all of a sudden) were at a point in time. We went from being very depressed and dark, to being overly girlish. The posh accent would definitely go with that. This is going to sound ridiculous - but we seem to already have a split from that year though. Why would we need even more? I know things were hard but honestly.. Why didn't we just stop the splitting. Why did we have to make so many? Um, that was not just me.. Probably someone feeling eh, something. Anyway.. We're going to ask Nin's SO to talk to her a bit more about it. She usually does talk to us and get to know us, and it is through her that Nin knows most of the things she does about us. The accent change is happening from time to time still, as well as the change in body language. We'll see what comes of this. It's interesting to note, at least :)
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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby lifelongthing » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:24 pm

Freaky huh!

Very much indeed.

I find that a few of my alters might begin with a certain accent or voice and it does indeed change. (this they agree to) I think they want to be unique from the others, and are trying out things. (this they REALLY agree to) They could also be influenced by others inside. (this they are not so sure about)

Oh, sorry for explaining a bit weirdly - I meant that the accent change (e.g from mine to her's) has happened several times this week. It has stayed the same through it all, but I've noticed it happening several times.

She just liked that accent so she took it silly!

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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby tomboy24 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:10 pm

lifelongthing wrote:Why would we need even more? I know things were hard but honestly.. Why didn't we just stop the splitting. Why did we have to make so many? Um, that was not just me.. Probably someone feeling eh, something.[/color]

(I'm not going to go in to how "splitting" doesn't happen, at least not often (though it is possible), because there's a whole 'nother thread about "splitting" :wink: ).

It's common to have many alters that come from the same time period. Just because an alter was created to handle a situation within that time period, doesn't mean they could handle all situations, and it doesn't mean they "fit" every aspect of that time period.
I mean, Dallas, Damone, Rebel, Marie, and Valera are all "from" the same time period of high school. That's 5 alters right there, for one time period. Not to mention the already-existing ones that were also helping to handle high school like L.C., Luna, Shay, Kat, and Rain (I wouldn't say Cassie "helped" in the way of school, but she was there and she did help make school fun sometimes). (I wouldn't say "Hannibal" "helped" either, but without him Kat wouldn't have been Kataki, and we might actually not have made it through school, so I guess in a weird way he was helpful as well as there).

So yeah, don't worry about it too much. Who cares how many came from the same time period as long as you're all safe and here now? :wink: (It's always interesting to know, yes, but there's no point in worrying about it or constantly wondering when there's no answer yet to be found or anything).


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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby lifelongthing » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:30 pm

So yeah, don't worry about it too much. Who cares how many came from the same time period as long as you're all safe and here now?

Very true. I was the one who was a bit upset. It's just the amount of alters you have are often relatively proportionate the amount of trauma you went through. It's not the easy of course and it's not like that for everyone, but new alters means new pain we didn't know about. It just doesn't stop I guess is all.. The amount of torment our family put us through. It's just saddening to think about. But of course - we welcome everyone in here and they are there for a reason and we so appreciate that. It was mostly just the initial shock of it. Sorry for the late reply, I'm not out that much.

Thank you :)
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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby tomboy24 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:58 pm

This isn't denial talking, or me trying to be tough, or any bullsh*t like that, but I think we're one of the exceptions to this "alters are usually proportionate to amount of trauma" rule, which by the way, we don't really agree with nor like as a "tool" to try and see how many possible alters someone might have. Because compared to others here, we had it fairly easy, and we had it better than most of what I've read from users, and yet we still ended up with 20, possibly more, alters. To me, for what we went through, that's not proportionate at all. Honestly, 5 alters made more sense to me. H3ll, even when we got up to 7, I was like "Eh, I could see that". But 20, maybe more? That does not follow the "alters/trauma proportionate" rule, least not to me, which is why I don't see it as a "rule" or even a "guideline", and personally don't like it.

(By the way, wasn't trying to get at you or anything like that. Just explaining my opinion. I know it's tough discovering new parts and stuff, and I'm glad you have this place and the people here to help you with it. Also, nice to see you post here. Glad you were able to).

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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby lifelongthing » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:07 pm

I realize it's not like that for everyone - but there's a reason why studies say this (or have I misunderstood something on Tylas' website?). *trigger warning* Yes we've been tortured for years and years. Yes we were "married" (by his words) to our abuser, yes there's been more bad things than what most people can really even imagine *end* but it still hurts to see the after effects. It's easier now though - it gets easier every day. Thank you for writing to me.
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Re: Hearing yourself talk? Alter?

Postby lifelongthing » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:36 pm

Hihi yeah this turned out to be me :P Finally got closer to the surface without it being ignored as someone else just messing with their accent hihi :) I'm glad to be a known part of the system now :)
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