Inner world vs Outer world time?

I was wondering something about your inner worlds:
As we all know, time passes on the outside while we are on the inside. Do any of you find that time will have passed in the inside world upon returning, though? Do they happen simultaneously, at a different pace from each other or do you just end up back at the same time that you left? Not meaning just in the 24h cycle (for those that have that), but also for what can have happened on the inside while you were out? I hope my question makes sense Thank you to anyone who answers. - Cassie

In my own personal case,
My inner world seems to have a time of its own. Ie. I and any 'outer alters' that deal with outside stuff can function in that time, but when we come back to awareness inwardly, we seem to start off from the point we left off. So it feels like I'm living in at least two times frames. If dealing with individual stuff, an individual alter might become more conscious of their own time frame, ie. when they were a youngster, or when they were 17 or what have you, but now were mostly 'together' we seem to have a co-ordinated inner world, working together on inward stuff.
We're not even sure which world is real more, the outer or the inner.

I think before we came 'together' and were aware of each other, each alter seemed separate, closed off in their own room, so I think we experienced a bit more of a mixture of times and spaces then. Our own alters times and paces would vary. Ie. we re each growing and learning, developing at our own pace, but usually for this to happen, I think we haven't experienced much time loss now inwardly. Maybe it depends how separated you are, I'm not sure

Now that we have 'come together', we feel like we're going at the best and most appropriate pace for us each, and as a whole. where we can develop. Whereas in the outer world It is very fast and most of us don't fit in well there. I think that's why we have 'outies' to deal with the outer world for us.

Thank you for sharing that with me.

Whereas in the outer world It is very fast and most of us don't fit in well there.

I feel the same way. This world is just too fast for me. I don't belong out here and everything just overwhelms me, really.

Thanks again.

On the inside I don't feel time, ya know, it just seems to not be there. But it does have day, night, seasons, but all are based on what we notice on the outside. If there would be a foot snow around here, and we'd travel to Australia or whatever and it is sunny the whole day around there, it gets sunny on the inside world too. But I don't feel time, and if I'd go inside at 2p.m. or whatever, I still feel like it is 2p.m. once I go out again.

Destiny

Thank you. I don't notice time passing on the outside when I'm inside, and I don't notice time passing on the inside when I'm outside. My question is less to do with actual minutes passing, and more to do with the affects of time (e.g things being in different places, events have happened, people are not where they were when you last saw them etc). I'm having a hard time putting into words what my question is, I'm sorry It's just, does time pass (or the affects of time) on the inside, while you are outside? E.g, is the inside world the same way you "left it" when you go out and come back in? Or have people done their own things and such?

I don't have very good communication with my inside world, or most of my alters. For me, they do sometimes talk to each other on the inside while I'm on the outside. So when I go back in I find that in a way, time has passed and things have changed. It seems to me that I can be on the outside for days, and only a few 'minutes' pass on the inside world but like I said earlier, I'm not really in touch with my inside world very well yet. I hope that's helpful..
-Geoff

Thank you. I don't notice time passing on the outside when I'm inside, and I don't notice time passing on the inside when I'm outside

same here

Maybe it depends on how developed the system is as to how fast it goes or what it can do and how it functions. As a fairly new system, or rather we've haven't long been discovered, our abilities to relate to each other are quite small and simple at present. I can imagine though with time once having to get to know each other, then we might start to relate more on the inside, while we process outside stuff at the same time. For now I think we wait while we process the outside stuff then come back to the inside stuff.

You must have D.I.D., No one else would know about this..

Life is a strange place for me, as the PTSD worlds are of different time periods and seem in the now.

This is a really good questions!, Many alters fighting to convince me that there time period is the real time period. Each alter is in the original time period except the protector alter. The protector alter is allowed to be inside and present. This alter controls the soldier alter. The soldier alter is sent out when the system needs protection.

Each alter will protect its time periods because beautify and security dwelled in that place. My alters cant go beyond time periods; They do not know of the outside world.. The sexual person ( that person raped) is the most isolated.

Whats interesting is; as I connect with these alters and they become me, I have the outer world and there inner worlds... They meld into each other, yet, they are separate.. Much like a field of barren ground, slowly as one moves up the hillside, gives way to the beginnings of a forest. Soon, the forest is all encompassing The Barren field represents the outer world and the forest is the alters world. I walk along a path from one to the other. Starting in the field, as I move upward, the transition is so smooth, I don't notice the changing of scenery. Yet the main identity( myself), can see the whole picture.. the alters cannot... I am aware of my world and there world in the present. This really effects my abilities when Im with a group of people as the alters world forces me to dissociate. Im half present and half dissociation at the same time. This causes great havoc when I need to be present.

SOme times its a real trip to be in 1966, 1969, 1972, 1979, 1980, 2012 at the same times and not feel that anything is wrong...

lifelongthing wrote:It's just, does time pass (or the affects of time) on the inside, while you are outside? E.g, is the inside world the same way you "left it" when you go out and come back in? Or have people done their own things and such?

It really depends for us.

On the first level inside, with the Main Group alters, there seems to be always some awareness of time passing, on some sort of level. I think it's because we're so co-conscious. We're rather used to the low amount of awareness to time passing, though, so we often ignore it easily.
At the very least, I think everyone on the first level is aware of days passing, because Rain's getting the littles ready for bed around the same time that Cassandra/the body actually goes to bed (if not a little earlier); and everyone tends to clear out of the living room and go to their own rooms. (Except for Shay...if she has a room, I haven't seen it/don't know where it is. She seems to stay at some level of "up front" all the time, either in control, sharing control, simply in the control room, or just out of the control room but still has the ability to be aware of the outside world).

We don't all sleep at the same time, though. I usually have insomnia, so I don't sleep for up to 3 or 4 days sometimes. L.C. usually stays up with me, but she'll crash once at some point, for a nap or an actual night's worth of sleep. Shay's usually up late and sometimes pulls an all-nighter. The other Main Group alters sleep on a pretty regular schedule, unless they're upset by something or there's stuff going on inside.

ANYWAY, as far as time passing on the inside when we're out, it depends. Sometimes it's obvious that time has passed; like, there's alters in the living room who weren't there before, or someone's now listening to music in their room when they weren't before, or someone's awake when they weren't before, that type of stuff. And if you (usually) share a room like L.C. and I do, then sometimes there's stuff moved around, or something's changed about/in the room.
But other times, it seems like nothing's changed, and you're picking up right where you left off. (L.C. and I are usually aware of time passing because we share a room and stuff, though).


On the second level, with the Secondary Group alters, though, time seems to stop (I've been there before). At least when you're inside, you aren't aware of any time passing at all on the second level. I think that's why disorientation and stuff is more common for alters on the second level. A week could pass on the outside and they'd have no idea.
When the second-level alters are out, Damone said that the only way to tell that time passed on the inside is by the other alters. If they're doing something different, or if they've moved from where they were, or something like that, then you know time has passed. Otherwise, Damone said you pretty much just pick up where you left off. (He said the main way he can tell that time's passed on the inside is the "addition of Rebel". Meaning, he'll be hanging out with his brother, Dallas, "inside", but then after Damone's been "out" in control by himself, he'll go back "inside" to find Dallas hanging out with Rebel, and then all 3 of them will hang out).


So to sum-up everything, on the first level with the Main Group alters, we're usually aware of time passing "inside" after we've been "out in control". And on the second level with the Secondary Group alters, they're usually not aware of time passing "inside" after they've been "out in control", and seem to just pick up where they left off for the most part.

~Luna

ANYWAY, as far as time passing on the inside when we're out, it depends. Sometimes it's obvious that time has passed; like, there's alters in the living room who weren't there before, or someone's now listening to music in their room when they weren't before, or someone's awake when they weren't before, that type of stuff. And if you (usually) share a room like L.C. and I do, then sometimes there's stuff moved around, or something's changed about/in the room.
But other times, it seems like nothing's changed, and you're picking up right where you left off. (L.C. and I are usually aware of time passing because we share a room and stuff, though).

Thank you for telling me that. Yes, me and Jacob share a house, so I notice that he's not in the same place her was. I was wondering if this was normal, glad to hear I'm not the only one.

Thank you.