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Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby ck2d » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:50 pm

Have you heard? Sandusky isn't a child molester, he just has histrionic PD. At least that's what the lawyers are saying.

Perhaps if I had a more active PD, as opposed to the withholding PD, I'd be less annoyed at this sort of stupid claim. But it just drives me nuts. On other sites, when someone is being an ass, the comeback is usually "keep your personality disorder in check." And, believe it or not, I usually speak up and say, hey, I've got one, I'm not so bad. And the people back down, and I never go back to that site again.

I take this crap personally. On the news this morning some "expert" said "attention seeking, sounds like all the attorneys I know, I don't think this is a real thing, histrionic personality disorder." WTF!

These damn fools grasp on to anything to explain away their actions, twist in a way that so obviously is completely false, and then that is given as the example in the press about what a PD is. It's wrong on every level.

I wish they would interview someone with a clue who could explain what the real PD is and how much it's not what the idiot lawyers say. We should have someone stand up and say, this is reality. Someone should go on Dr Phil and lay it on the line and explain what having a PD is really like. Any takers?
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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby granfalloon » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:33 pm

There is almost nothing I hate more than hearing someone spread misinformation on TV, and then hearing that misinformation echoed on news stations and then by regular people in everyday conversation. I can imagine this becoming similar to the aspie epidemic. Where I live it has become trendy to diagnose any social awkward person with Asperger’s syndrome, especially among hipsters (kind of my crowd) and yuppies. I was of course one of the ones diagnosed by my peers, “experts” because they saw a 10min segment on 60 min. I can imagine the same situation with HPD now. It will be talked about and analyzed on the news and one night I’ll be at a bar with my friends, they’ll be talking about a girl they know, and someone will say “that girl? Oya I think she has HPD”, and the people who have watched the news recently will agree, and we’ll all play psychologist. I really hope the HPD angle dies quickly.
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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby MissAli » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:06 pm

I can't believe they would try to get him off on child abuse charges with HPD. Of ALL the PD's, really? HPD? That's kind of hysterical. And sick. All rolled into one.


I'd love to go on Dr. Phil and state my case. I'm co-morbid BPD/HPD, but at the same time - you know how Dr. Phil operates - he's gonna take the most licentious clips, loop them together, and make me look like a crazy train wreck.

It's sad, how we're perceived.


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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby lonefull » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:58 pm

No matter if there's misinformation going around and people an criticize the way you are some point BUT at least you know. From where I come from, I could live like this that no one would exactly know what I have including myself. I would say I'm like this because of what happened in the past and people would (and will) keep calling me arrogant if they're distant and hopeless if they come close. So I believe having information even if sometimes may be misleading, it's better than have none at all.
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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby Parador » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:00 am

I don't see the point anyway. HPD is not an axis I disorder. It does not make someone criminally insane. Maybe it's a play for leniency? But if he is looking for leniency his best bet would be to plead guilty.

HPD will not be in DSM 5. They are going with only 6 personality disorders.
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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby EarlGreyDregs » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:41 pm

Maybe someone can help me understand, but how would HPD help his defense? I don't see any connection between HPD and him sexually abusing kids. They are like two distinct topics to me. :?

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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby MissAli » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:53 pm

That was my thought too, EGD. I mean, unless they were trying to use an insanity defence, it wouldn't even make sense to bring mental illness into it.


I mean, pedophilia is pedophilia, but it isn't going to garner sympathy. And unless they're trying to go with a tactic to hope that none of the jurors have ever heard of HPD, why in the world would they pick HPD? To me, that's pretty frivolous, and almost, well, FUNNY.

It's one of the least criminally harmful PD's, let alone, violent.

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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby ck2d » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:12 pm

He's claiming that his overwelming need for attention is what drove him to become a father figure to those kids, and, of course, that he never molested them. It's every kind of BS. Anyone with half a clue can see that.

But the vast majority of people have never even heard of HPD, and now they'll think having a personality disorder is like a gateway drug to becoming a child molester. That's what they said on TV. The guy said that he has HPD which lead him to act in an abnormally physical way with the kids and that his actions were blown out of proportion but were perfectly innocent.

Didn't hear anything about it today, though, so maybe they're realized how wrong and ridiculous their claims were.
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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby Parador » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:18 pm

It's probably the only idea he or his lawyers can come up with. I heard about the testimony of one victim where the jurrors were crying. They obviously believe the victim. I would think the best thing for him to do now is to plead guilty.
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Re: Sandusky and PD discrimination

Postby Casper » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:58 am

I agree that pleading guilty would be his best chance for any minute chance of leniency, but you know that won't happen. I'm surprised at the PD he chose, but not surprised that he did choose one. He doesn't have any usable defense, so he has to go with a Hail Mary play like this.

What bothers me is all of the negative attention that HPD is getting because of this. HPD will be loudly blamed for it as long as he holds to that defense, and then once it is proven to not have anything to do with the matter, it will quietly disappear, only leaving people to remember that HPD is the root of all evil. There won't be any retraction, or big press time showing what it really is. Like Ali said, it'll be the Dr. Phil's of the world talking about it, and really, they're no better than Howard Stern. In fact, they're worse; at least Howard doesn't believe all of the filth he spews.

I just hope his PD defense is quickly defeated, so it gets as little press time as possible.
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