I feel like neo

I realized that i was on the spectrum just a few months ago, and i feel now that i took the red pill and became self aware. i see the world for what it truly is, people are generally sheep with little free thinking ability who submit to the powers that be. I thought that more people thought and lived life the way i did until my world came crashing down.we wake up go to work, come home, watch tv go to bed then repeat until death with a few exceptions here and there. Maybe it's different for aspies?

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. A powerful position to be in. What are you going to do with it?

evolutionary wrote:I realized that i was on the spectrum just a few months ago, and i feel now that i took the red pill and became self aware. i see the world for what it truly is, people are generally sheep with little free thinking ability who submit to the powers that be. I thought that more people thought and lived life the way i did until my world came crashing down.we wake up go to work, come home, watch tv go to bed then repeat until death with a few exceptions here and there. Maybe it's different for aspies?

I felt this way long before I realized I had AS. I have always felt that I was observing the world from the outside (yeah, a common aspie trait), but it really was as you described: seeing behind the fabric of reality, in a way. It's an odd feeling. But think of it this way: perhaps we're some of the very few people who actually do have a superpower! :)

I can also relate to the horror of the mundane repetition of day-to-day life. It drives me bonkers. I so want to escape, but there's nowhere to escape to. It's an NT world out there, and very few concessions are made for neuroatypicals. I definitely do not want to fit in, as I abhor their world. But in that lies a never-ending discomfort.

oldalien wrote:I can also relate to the horror of the mundane repetition of day-to-day life. It drives me bonkers. I so want to escape, but there's nowhere to escape to. It's an NT world out there, and very few concessions are made for neuroatypicals. I definitely do not want to fit in, as I abhor their world. But in that lies a never-ending discomfort.

Few concessions are made for humans that are dropped alone, or dispersed, among wild animals. They are able to rule the other species, and live to higher standards, when they group and co-organize. Hint hint.

i guess i need a girlfriend and or a new hobby so life won't feel so mundane.

I find the whole notion of NT/AS segregation disgusting. There is no such thing as a "typical" mind. I'm bi-polar and I felt the same way....that everyone else is a sheep. So egotistical and dismissive.


There are people who have aspergers.
There are people who can only move their head.
There are children starving.

Realize that everyone has their own problems. The hot chick with the rich boyfriend? Yeah he beats her and she won't eat more than 500 calories a day. Didn't know that did you?


Never assume anything. Never close your mind.

Shades of Mae wrote:I find the whole notion of NT/AS segregation disgusting. There is no such thing as a "typical" mind. I'm bi-polar and I felt the same way....that everyone else is a sheep. So egotistical and dismissive.

NTs are seen as "typical" because there are more people without AS than with. It implies a set of precise, definable characteristics, just as its opposite entails.

The paradigm in which others are seen as sheep serves to focus on the unique strengths that come with Asperger's.
It's a different situation than disorders like depression, that are unequivocally negative.

21st_c_SchizoidMan wrote:

Shades of Mae wrote:I find the whole notion of NT/AS segregation disgusting. There is no such thing as a "typical" mind. I'm bi-polar and I felt the same way....that everyone else is a sheep. So egotistical and dismissive.

NTs are seen as "typical" because there are more people without AS than with. It implies a set of precise, definable characteristics, just as its opposite entails.

The paradigm in which others are seen as sheep serves to focus on the unique strengths that come with Asperger's.
It's a different situation than disorders like depression, that are unequivocally negative.

NO ONE is typical. This is nonsense. I have strengths over an Aspie...and they have their own. Some aspie's feel that NT's are seen as "arrogant" and feel "superior" but.... who's the arrogant one now? You're saying your more open-minded and accepting than a "NT". THAT is a superiority complex.

So there are only TWO types of people in the world according to this dogma, NT's and AS. That's a crock if I ever heard one. There are many different brain structures that allow people to do all kinds of amazing things. Seriously, this is one high horse that needs it's legs cut off.

Shades of Mae wrote:NO ONE is typical. This is nonsense. I have strengths over an Aspie...and they have their own. Some aspie's feel that NT's are seen as "arrogant" and feel "superior" but.... who's the arrogant one now? You're saying your more open-minded and accepting than a "NT". THAT is a superiority complex.

So there are only TWO types of people in the world according to this dogma, NT's and AS. That's a crock if I ever heard one. There are many different brain structures that allow people to do all kinds of amazing things. Seriously, this is one high horse that needs it's legs cut off.

That's what's called a sweeping statement.
It all depends to which level you go. Grains of sand are very typical, they stick to your skin when wet. If you look at each individually they are none are alike.

Snow is very typical. It's cold and white, and turns to nasty brown slush. If you look at each snowflake individually none are alike.

People are very typical. They live, make a mess, and die. If you look at each individually none are alike.

AS people are very typical, If you look at each individually none are alike.

Shades of Mae wrote:NO ONE is typical. This is nonsense. I have strengths over an Aspie...and they have their own. Some aspie's feel that NT's are seen as "arrogant" and feel "superior" but.... who's the arrogant one now? You're saying your more open-minded and accepting than a "NT". THAT is a superiority complex.

So there are only TWO types of people in the world according to this dogma, NT's and AS. That's a crock if I ever heard one. There are many different brain structures that allow people to do all kinds of amazing things. Seriously, this is one high horse that needs it's legs cut off.

You seem to have completely misunderstood what is implied here, and are making irrelevant criticisms.

There is no dogma.
There is no superiority complex.
No one is segregating people into two distinct categories any more than the "depression" label segregates people into the classes of "depressed" vs "happy". This is the same kind of distinction, with the important difference that AS includes strengths lacking in NT, just as the reverse is true.

The analysis of AS vs NT traits is based on observations of what behaviors are apparently implied by the "Asperger's" label vs the lack thereof.
For example, the "arrogance" associated with NT is the natural result of what is required for smooth social interactions in society by large. Snap judgements, confident assured communication at the expense of thoughtfulness, a consistent set of perceptions and values to identify with that are primarily oriented toward keeping up an image in the tribe rather than rational realism... that kind of thing. The thought structure that allows for this to come about most naturally can be seen as "arrogant" its most extreme form. The analysis is more complex, and even the rationale of this example goes deeper than that... but I don't know if for the purposes of this discussion I need to be more precise, or if this is enough to give you a rough idea of what you're misunderstanding.

Discussions in which the focus is the *strengths* of a set of traits, are obviously going to allude to *ways* in which those people are superior. You are falsely extrapolating from this to assume that the people in question have a sense of *general* superiority, and that these categories polarizingly divide and classify people in some extreme sense, when this isn't implied.