Frustration with Psychiatric Frauds

I have been dealing with Asperger's Syndrome (undiagnosed) for years, resulting in increasing anger, depression, alienation, and frustration at how callous and stupid the counselours and their pseudo-solutions are. They seem to be just like everyone else: I don't "seem" depressed so they treat me like an angsty teenager trying to get free narcotics (I am 28, by the way). I'm unemployed because I can not work in environments that require customer service, noisy co-workers, etc. It bugs the $#%^ out of me, I'd rather be poor than surrounded by people I can't stand doing something I don't care about.

In my childhood I was IMMEDIATELY turned off to counselours who had nothing but trite moralizing and obvious inability to think conceptually about values and desires. I am on board with philosophical anti-psychiatry and I also reject most of those Pfeizer poisons as sugar pills or worse, as far as I can tell it's just a scheme to make money off of the pseudo-science of psychiatry. I was prescribed some by a doctor and I'm done, I'm not taking that CRAP anymore. If they want to give me something that has at least some real mood-modifying effects (THC, Lyrica) that's a different story, but if a doctor hands me a slip of paper that says 'Zoloft' I'm throwing it in the garbage; I don't enjoy taking IQ-reducing junk so I can not-feel-better.

It seems like mental wellness counseling, just like the rest of the NT world, has no place for people who don't buy into their cons and don't benefit from their talky-talky emotional crap. I've been reading Nomi Kaim and Paul Coojiman's today. I just found their articles and they have really struck a chord. After that, I went on Google and looked for the experience of Aspies with psychiatrists and the drugs they push for the State-Medical complex, and most of them came up with the same thing I did: it not only did not help, but dealing with people who don't understand you or even take your seriously only makes things worse. This is how I am right now, their trite advice may work for your average Primate Joe but all it does is make me feel even more alienated and hopeless than before.

I am unemployed, as I said, yet I can't get access to DSHS because I don't have proper psychiatric evaluations, and I can't afford to get those because I'm unemployed, and whenever I've bothered to talk to counselours or doctors about this all I get is the same non-advice.

I have tried the stuff they tell you in depression manuals: I've worked out, I've gotten a job, I've tried to socialize with people; all that does is make things worse. The deepest depression I've ever dealt with came from the perpetual alienation and stress of dealing with people who I felt no connexion to at work; putting forth so much effort and getting nothing but WORSE.

How the Hell do you get help when all anyone wants to offer you is bad advice and opinions disguised as science? I'm about ready to just give it up, I am SICK of filling out God damn forms just so I can have my opinion ignored in favor of some know-nothing desk jockey with an IQ 30 points beneath mine and be told that I don't qualify for social security because aforesaid desk jockey has his head up his ass.

get a job that doesn't involve a lot of social interaction. they do exist, if you're prepared to do pretty much anything within reason. but whilst you're reliant on others you're going to have to put up with the way they want things done. after all, he who pays the piper calls the tune!

it's your life. only you can live it. no one will do it for you, and nor would you want them to, would you!

shock_the_monkey wrote:get a job that doesn't involve a lot of social interaction. they do exist, if you're prepared to do pretty much anything within reason. but whilst you're reliant on others you're going to have to put up with the way they want things done. after all, he who pays the piper calls the tune!

it's your life. only you can live it. no one will do it for you, and nor would you want them to, would you!

Or I could just sell drugs and live in a shack in the woods. I'm not all that attached to talking to idiots on the internet.

I know that in the case with Aspie (much like NTs) their intelligence range may very from one to the next. I am just hoping I misunderstood your last post about stupidity and talking to idiots on the internet.

I will say how ever. I am an Aspie who is currently in the the US Army reserves. And as a civilian I work in the operating room as a operating room tech.

The reason I bring this up is because in the Army you pretty much have to do what you are told weather you want to or not.

The reason I bring up the operating room is because while scrubbed in for surgery you have to undergo physical annoyances (sweat on your eyebrow, itch on your neck or nose) and are not able to remedy it it for fear of breaking sterility.

Being Aspie does not mean we can not live along side with NTs. I get that you are frustrated and depressed. But you need to get a control over yourself. Aspergers is a developmental disorder. We can learn with time to over some the negative aspects; other people with mental disorders will be plagued with it for their entire life with no help for improvement.

I do hope you find a way to live with the NTs. I do hope that you find a way to learn more patience and are better able to tolerate their annoying habits. But most of all I hope you find a job and somehow become an adult who become a productive part of society.

Horapollo wrote:

shock_the_monkey wrote:get a job that doesn't involve a lot of social interaction. they do exist, if you're prepared to do pretty much anything within reason. but whilst you're reliant on others you're going to have to put up with the way they want things done. after all, he who pays the piper calls the tune!

it's your life. only you can live it. no one will do it for you, and nor would you want them to, would you!

Or I could just sell drugs and live in a shack in the woods. I'm not all that attached to talking to idiots on the internet.

Ouch...

Damn you have a lot of anger...
I'm not sure I can say anything that is going to make you feel any better...

The councilors/psychiatrists that don't get you...
Have you told them you are an un-dxed AS?
Do they have any in depth understanding of what AS is all about?
If not, they will probably feed you NT bull dust that might work on NTs but not on us...

I'm and aspie and I am in my mid 50s, btw...

Being Aspie does not mean we can not live along side with NTs.

I don't want to. Unless I can completely ignore and avoid them (at least the 999/1000 that I find utterly tedious), I would rather live in a cave. Society does not provide me with enough value to justify dealing with human trash, and thats all most people are as far as I am concerned. I am not trying to say anything about their 'objective' value, I don't care about that nonsense; I am saying that to me they are worse than worthless, they clutter up and provide nothing. They are ZEROS, and zero multiplied by infinity is still ZERO.

One of the things that pisses me off is right there: the NT psycho-frauds won't even take misanthropy seriously, because it doesn't make their happy light blink; they're such thoughtless, self-absorbed idiots. Stirner, Nietzsche and Georges Palante are not 'allowed' to be taken seriously or dealt with because their petty little heads can't conceive of the fact that nothing has intrinsic value, much less some random drooling bunch of primates who can't even tell the truth to themselves. How the Hell am I supposed to have any respect or get anything out of a meatsack in a chair who just dismisses logical argument out of hand because he's too much of a coward to take it seriously? He may as well be a Priest, in fact ,that would be more honest.

The councilors/psychiatrists that don't get you...

It's been a long time since I've seen any, because I don't have any money. Can't get a job because I don't feel like doing anything or dealing with people, can't get DSHS because I don't have 'evaluations', can't get evaluations because I don't have any money. It's a ######6 joke, and just goes to show what a vote-buying crock welfare is, they could give a $#%^ about "helping" people; they're just paycheck whores.

Horapollo wrote:

shock_the_monkey wrote:get a job that doesn't involve a lot of social interaction. they do exist, if you're prepared to do pretty much anything within reason. but whilst you're reliant on others you're going to have to put up with the way they want things done. after all, he who pays the piper calls the tune!

it's your life. only you can live it. no one will do it for you, and nor would you want them to, would you!

Or I could just sell drugs and live in a shack in the woods. I'm not all that attached to talking to idiots on the internet.

me neither. the truth hurts sometimes, doesn't it.

Whatever, bye.
And what I meant is that I don't value the internet very highly because it mostly consists of idiots; and I was pointing out that there's no a priori reason to "have to" stay in urban civil environments.
But, hey, if you want to take it personally and be a little snarkbasket, ###$ off. Welcome to ignore.

One more reason to vote for Skynet.

Horapollo wrote:Whatever, bye.

well, you sure know how to burn a bridge or two!!!

This doesn't sound much like AS, or it could be AS mixed with something else.....