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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby orion13213 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:28 pm

Hi Crystal, how u been?
How's about Caligula (Latin: Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus;[1] 31 August 12 AD – 24 January 41 AD), also known as Gaius; Roman Emperor from 37 AD to 41 AD.
There's a cool History Channel program about Caligula going around on cable, in which it describes

Caligula, the youthful Roman Emperor
-who was fascinated with Egyptian Pharaohs
-who despised the idea of a more democratic Roman Republic, in which the Emperor's power was moderated by the Senate,
-who had his familial rivals for the throne (including his innocent 14 year old nephew) banished or assassinated, or forced them to take their own lives,
-who was a heavy duty, indulgent libertine and partier,
-who had a torrid and public affair with his youngest sister, despite the contemporary prohibition against incest in Roman Culture
-he had aristocrats and High Roman Senators tortured and killed, sometimes for vain and trivial reasons; supposedly Caligula like to make sure that the person slowly died, fully aware of their life draining away,
-Caligula increased the violence and gore in The Colliseum by feeding human prisoners to the carnivores when there were shortages of livestock, and he greatly increasing the number of Gladiatoral matches and deaths involving both animals and people, and he also prolonged the violence by carefully matching the combatants and by controlling their weaponry,
-Caligula proclaimed himself to be a living Roman God, and demanded to be worshiped accordingly - too much for even the Praetorian Guard, so Caligula was of course assassinated one day.

The theme of the History Channel show is, "Was Caligula really insane?" - i.e., mentally ill - supposedly he once directed his legions, who were preparing to invade Britain, to attack the ocean at Normandy, then had his troops gather seashells, and at one point he wanted to make his favorite race horse his consul to the Senate...but the show's thesis is that he wasn't psychotic, only that he was pulling a lot of gaslighting to confuse his enemies.

But IMO Caligula does seem to fit the criteria for moral Insanity:
...physician James Cowles Prichard coined the term in 1835 in his Treatise on insanity and other disorders affecting the mind. He defined moral insanity as: "madness consisting in a morbid perversion of the natural feelings, affections, inclinations, temper, habits, moral dispositions, and natural impulses, without any remarkable disorder or defect of the interest or knowing and reasoning faculties, and particularly without any insane illusion or hallucinations"...Prichard was indebted to the work of physician Philippe Pinel, [who] had described mental diseases of only partial, affective, insanity. His concept Manie sans délire (Latin - mania sine delirio; French - folie raisonnante or folie lucide raisonnante, monomanie affective; German - Moralisches Irresein) referred to insanity without delusion. That is, the sufferer was thought to be mad in one area only and thus the personality of the individual might be distorted but his or her intellectual faculties were unimpaired.

quoted from Wikipedia, "Moral Insanity."

Although Caligula banished one of his sisters, she later gave birth to none other than Nero, yet another Roman Emperor with malignant narcissistic and/or antisocial traits (suggesting an underlying genetic substrate - although Nero's father was a criminal). Caligula and Nero both behaved in ways that led Stone (1998) to first describe Roman Emperor Syndrome in connection with psychopathy, as "the quest...for the complete subjugation and the slow and painful destruction of other human beings."

IMO opinion if you watch the 2000 movie "Gladiator," there's obviously a lot of Caligula in Joaquin Phoenix's Commodus.

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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby Pan » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:35 pm

I suggest everyone here go watch Caligula starring McDowell and directed by a porn director.
http://youtu.be/lj0BnsF1FXs
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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby Platypus » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:45 pm

There's a 3D remake on the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg9E65-1_m4
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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby Xena » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:45 pm

^ Yes.

Has anybody mentioned Vlad yet?

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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby Pan » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Hmm, what about Cleopatra? I plan on ascending to god status like she did. :D

Ancients Behaving Badly, Cleopatra:
http://youtu.be/cNutYBphvkw
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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby MrOmega » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:57 pm

Xena wrote:Last time I panhandled, about 2 years ago, it took me all frikkin day to make $6. Barely enough for dinner.


I said young...

Hey don't blame me... buskers are probably illegal in most parts of the world... so, hey, someone puts on makeup, makes a scene, and that doesn't deserve an acting payment... fkin sure deserves that... you need charm, which I lacked at the time, my buddy romeo, though, he made money, he was a charmer...
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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby Pan » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:58 pm

MrOmega wrote:
Xena wrote:Last time I panhandled, about 2 years ago, it took me all frikkin day to make $6. Barely enough for dinner.


I said young...


LOL!
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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby Xena » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:14 pm

Well I don't look old :P
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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby Obsidian » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:20 pm

Sweden not Switzerland, MrOmega.
Switzerland has watches, Sweden has blondes and Ikea. :­P
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Re: History's Psychopaths

Postby MrOmega » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:30 pm

Sure... all of Europe has issues, same, same...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/ ... E620130527

We all know about the only piece of media to come out of Sweden, like EVER...

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I will be totally honest with you... seeing as I lived in areas with that country well represented... that country is a problem... muslims are no problem...

I know, because a gang of those kids jumped me once, like they were bidding over fruit on a fruit stand...

Anyways, anyone notice how all the women from that country look the same... I swear, polygamy, MUST have been the norm for a while... let me check, because I'm being dead serious...

I mean that... there must have been like one or two kings years ago who had harems the size of small cities... Either that or some woman followed me around like everywhere I went...
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