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Trouble verbalising in person

Postby Infinitude » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:40 am

So I've had a problem for quite a number of years now where it is very difficult for me to verbalise much in a conversation. A lot of this is due to social anxiety, because I am inevitably going to be highly anxious in a social situation, however except under certain circumstances, even in situations where I am not overly anxious, there's still a prominent lack of verbalising. I'll be practically silent, making minimal replies. I think part of it is that I lack the practice of speaking in person to people, but like I said there are some situations that I can do it, e.g. if the topic is something I know a lot about.

I'm wondering how most people manage to be so verbally/conversationally proficient (in my eyes) and how common it is with SA's to be mostly silent like me, and what ways there might be to try and combat this.

Thanks.
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Re: Trouble verbalising in person

Postby Infinitude » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:16 am

Quick snap, get on the reply button y'all!

If it helps, I assess myself as an INFJ-Ti. INFJs are supposed to be some of the most verbal of the introverts, however also the most prone to social anxiety. The fact that I tend to rely on Ti means that I give my emotional-verbal thoughts over to wordless-logical analysis, which means deflecting away from the social environment.

However, I'm still Fe auxiliary, which means I should be able to vocalise and sway group dynamics if I'm not so anxious.

Anything? :P
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Re: Trouble verbalising in person

Postby Holodeck » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:08 pm

Infinitude wrote: there are some situations that I can do it, e.g. if the topic is something I know a lot about.


Ding ding ding! You answered your own question right here. Find groups of folks who meet up todo something you no a lot about. Join a DnD group (there are even online ones if you want to practice voice chat first before face-to-face, though I obviously recommend trying an in person campaign every once in a while till used to it if you choose DnD. I read once on these forums where someone went to cons where they dressed up, and acted as the persona. This seemed to help them act out what they normally had trouble with.

Tricks here you're going to have to learn is knowing that A) there will be times you say things that are wrong, and B) that when you gracefully admit you're wrong, people will quickly get over it. It's when things are dragged out that people feel the need to over-correct. Not saying you do drag things out (I have no idea), but I know many tend to refrain from fear of being mocked.

Personally I got yelled at a lot as a kid and teen when I spoke before being spoken to. I basically had to rewire myself to speak up now that I'm an adult so I don't miss out or have problems when I have to do things on my own in general.

Infinitude wrote:I'm wondering how most people manage to be so verbally/conversationally proficient (in my eyes) and how common it is with SA's to be mostly silent like me, and what ways there might be to try and combat this.


I have had selective mutism since I was in 3rd grade. I rarely have problems with it anymore, but it's still on occasion there. My boyfriend found out that I knock it off as soon as a subject gets brought up that I know a lot about. If I feel I have to answer questions I go from mute to eloquent immediately.
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Re: Trouble verbalising in person

Postby Infinitude » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:07 am

Thanks Holodeck.

I think joining a group is unrealistic for me, since I've had "plans" to do it for years but never did. I can talk to people online though based on similar interests. Oh and if I'm in a comfortable environment i.e. not in public I can talk a lot if I'm drunk. But that's not a healthy coping mechanism.
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Re: Trouble verbalising in person

Postby Holodeck » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:46 am

Infinitude wrote:Thanks Holodeck.

I think joining a group is unrealistic for me, since I've had "plans" to do it for years but never did. I can talk to people online though based on similar interests. Oh and if I'm in a comfortable environment i.e. not in public I can talk a lot if I'm drunk. But that's not a healthy coping mechanism.


Well there are often groups online you can join (of pretty much any interest).

If you figure it out let us know. Hope you can make strides forward.
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