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Ha ha ha, Tom Cruise was right!

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:11 am

I remember when Tom Cruise made a bunch of noise about how psychiatry is a fraud etc. and at the time I sort of agreed but I also thought he was being irresponsible.


I just got done reading Robert Whitatker's "Mad in America" and I totally agree with Cruise now. Psychiatry is quackery only out for money, and only out to harm. The more that anti-psychotics harm you the more you need. NONE of the newer "Atypical" drugs are any safer or better than previous incarnations of "anti schizophrenic" drugs. They all screw with your brain chemistry and eventually really screw your brain up making you more and more reliant upon more drugs that make you worse until you die. NO psychiatrist cares about your health. They falsify studies so they can get paid by drug companies and fool the American public to literally buy into their scam.

My suggestion is if you are on an antipsychotic, try to slowly get off of it. Your chances for recovery are much greater if you are not on antipsychotics. This is a scientific fact. If you don't believe me, please read the very well researched and very well written book "Mad in America".



Good luck.
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Postby Guest » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:23 am

Not all psychiatrists are like that. You have to remember that during their training they are taught that mental illness is a biological disease and this is what they believe.

The culture of mainstream psychiatry means anyone who speaks out against the medical model is squashed and they will be lucky to work in the field of psychiatry again. The drug companies are very powerful and they own the mental health industry.

There are many ethical psychiatrist that speak out about the non existence of any medical cause for "mental illness" and the dangers of psychiatric drugs, they just don't get the public exposure that quacks that tow the drug company line do.

guest,

I hope you spread the word about the fraud of biopsychiatry. The more people that do it, the closer we'll be to getting the whole mental health system reformed.
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Postby Wham Bam Thank You Mam » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:47 pm

Are there really so few people who disagree with these ######6 anti-psychiatry folks. I for one am sick of their ranting and raving. I am a schizophrenic, who, for six months, wallowed about in my own personal hell to the detriment of my health and well being. It was only after I started to take one of the atypicals, abilify, that I found my condition improving. Just because science cannot pinpoint the chemical-biological basis for schizophrenia, and just because their medicines are akin to using a sledgehammer to bash a fly does not mean that psychiatry is "quackary". The medicines work, and, though the side effects may be horrible, it is less horrible than living in a delusional dream world. Belive me. I know. If anyone is considering dropping their meds because of listening to these anti-psychiatry people, I implore you with the best of intentions, stay on your meds. If you are on the meds in the first place, than you know how bad the alternative is.
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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:08 am

Wham Bam Thank You Mam,

Have you ever been held down by 6 psych nurses and injected with drugs you know are designed to give you a chemical lobotomy?

A DX of SZ means alot of things to alot of different people. Psychiatric intervention was forced on me, there is nothing wrong with me. I do not suffer delusions nor did I live in hell. The hell I experienced was psychiatric treatment.

You agree that there is no known cause for SZ. So how do these meds work and what do they target?

If you've only been on psych meds for six months, your tune will change if your on them for 5 years.
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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:31 am

Wham Bam,

Your descripton of how meds work and what they target is scarily accurate. But some of us think it's not good enough.

The recovery rates for SZ were much higher in the 1900 when the treatment method was only water and air.

In poorer countries where meds are not used the recovery rate is far greater than in westernised countries.

There are obviously better treatment methods than just sledge hammer drugs with all there terrible side effects. Loren Mosher proved this!

It's about time the American Psychiatric Association got out of bed with the drug companies, removed their hands from the drug company till and start looking at other likely causes. Then develop better and more effective treatments that are not centered on money and the flawed drug company theory that bad brain chemistry causes distress.
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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:41 pm

Anonymous wrote:Wham Bam Thank You Mam,

Have you ever been held down by 6 psych nurses and injected with drugs you know are designed to give you a chemical lobotomy?


I have. The psychiatric hospital is a scary place, but that doesn't negate the fact that schizophrenia is an illness.
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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:33 pm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wham Bam Thank You Mam,

Have you ever been held down by 6 psych nurses and injected with drugs you know are designed to give you a chemical lobotomy?


I have. The psychiatric hospital is a scary place, but that doesn't negate the fact that schizophrenia is an illness.


I agree!And no amount of wishing it away will make you better!Stay on the meds if it helps you!
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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:37 pm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wham Bam Thank You Mam,

Have you ever been held down by 6 psych nurses and injected with drugs you know are designed to give you a chemical lobotomy?


I have. The psychiatric hospital is a scary place, but that doesn't negate the fact that schizophrenia is an illness.


In other cultures symptoms of schizophrenia are considered normal.
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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:12 pm

Anonymous wrote:In other cultures symptoms of schizophrenia are considered normal.


The health of living things is the province of science; it is not determined willy-nilly by any culture's subjective opinion.
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Postby Guest » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:05 am

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In other cultures symptoms of schizophrenia are considered normal.


The health of living things is the province of science; it is not determined willy-nilly by any culture's subjective opinion.


World Health Organisation studies show culture plays an extremely significant role in the diagnosis, duration and recovery of SZ. This certainly indicates that ideology has replaced science in the West.

I'll take the WHO studies over info from a multi-billion dollar drug industry anyday. Only one of these organisation have a vested interest in manipulating the truth and it isn't the WHO.
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