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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby commedia » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:10 pm

Always heard that what Nash experienced were auditory and not visual hallucinations. The visuals were for the sake of the movie. Just like how him and his wife had a little happily ever after at the end of the movie. They did not. He still talks to the voices sometimes too, or so I've heard from a guy that used to go to Princeton a few years ago. Maybe not. He might just be speaking to himself outloud. Said he was on his own a lot.

I mostly hear things (voices, singing/humming, screeching/squeaking/hissing, whispering, slamming and knocking) but have seen dark figures and the air or walls "breathing" or expanding towards me like a big bubble. They don't look like anything real or normal but at the same time because I see them they are. They (figures) stay in places with the least amount of light where they can have a good view of me. Some kind of humanoid type things. Once I thought they were part rabbit. Still do at times. :|

Have never hallucinated them handing me something. The only voice that interacts with me the most that I don't feel so bad about is a female I have named Elizabeth. Haven't seen her only heard her speak. So no papers lol.
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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby AnxxietyAttacks » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:10 pm

i see bugs that arent there.

funny...someone said they touched a hallucinations as well as see it. ive dont that a few times. i see a beetle on my chest that just sits there, and i try to grab it or flick it off.
And we don't know
Just where our bones will rest
To dust I guess
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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby commedia » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:13 pm

AnxxietyAttacks wrote:i see bugs that arent there.

funny...someone said they touched a hallucinations as well as see it. ive dont that a few times. i see a beetle on my chest that just sits there, and i try to grab it or flick it off.

Or smush it or drop a cat on it.. Then it vanishes or crawls away.
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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby rog » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:28 pm

hi hoko,i've not seen the film yet but would watch it, I use the thinking of beautiful mind vs ugly mind meets win, draw and void so all minds may not think alike but stay undefeated.
Local reality is fragmenting as it slip roads in with all other versions into mainstreaming all climate reality. it needs a pinch of honesty to keep the connectivity anchored between definitions of reality and hallucinations.
It needs focus to view reality through windows not just one schooled window definition. One window reality is like trying to realise the potential of your dreams while creating the least amount of debt. It’s not realistic to expect to realise your reality dreams at the expense of all other possible unique versions that may be viewed through differing windows. It’s like a one way street that causes sensory blindness because of convenient ego blind spots.
It’s like saying there is a tangible cut off line between mind and body, techniquely there isn’t. Both could be shortened to MY, e.g my space etc. like minatour’s using melody to become my music etc.
All versions of ‘my space’ from people to atoms, gods and aliens etc all form cloud versions of godhead traffic signals. It’s then like damage limitating avoiding godhead kundalini sciatica pressure as relevant articles become targeted by god particle searches. It needs on/ off button attitudes to quicktime rewire and reroute any cocky growth spurt defensive gag reflexes.
It could then avoid serious issues becoming depreciated and dissolved into divide and lose immature d.i.y competitions. i stopped going in clubs at about 25, and now don't compete physically and mentally anymore. i'm 44 and now try and look forward to any seniors tour reduced debt, reduced traffic tech festival versions of anything decent.
Having minimum wage and maximum wage tube access to main stream tubing could help all versions of what’s real or not work together, to filter sensory highway codes and reduce impossible dr Frankenstein efforts to refill pandora’s box.
My first time out response lately is when anything serious or personal is highlighted i quicktime say ‘ask me again in a year or two?', and 'is it worse than the Austrian girl’s apparent hell in a dungeon imprisoned and raped by her dad?'
I like the Rain cheque/ Rain forest example of how to not bite the handS that feed and try to adjust any Rolls Royce versions into Reign/Reign compromises not one way window, frequency mirror death stars.
It’s like strictly come dancing, meets strictly underground by avoiding the x elements and the y elements being judged by the plan z elements that are dumped on as they are bullied into bottom feeding off the weakest link excess, instead of promoting and advertising the plan t tech elements that techmate traffic solutions as to what’s reality or not.
It’s no exaggeration to expect youngsters to be asking questions like ‘are we alive?, or ‘were we ever alive? ‘, or ‘are we ever dead? Instead of the cliché ‘are we there yet? ‘ adverts. The are we there yet questions need to be rewired and re-routed to have we looped the loop and joined the roundabout freeway yet? Where any version from anywhere could be potentially as relevant or more relevant or less relevant as any other article versions being ticket touted as taxi rides to mainstream status highways.
I still take exaggerated examples of gag reflex knee jerk reactions personally but take them with a pinch of honesty rather than an overdose of honesty. It soon settles and gets easier each day. I’ve kept a decent consecutive number of clean sheet days recently without conceding any bite reflex talk out loud alone reflex defense responses. My mind and body rapid response ‘my space’ rapid response methods, are now more about how fast i can reduce my rerouting ego compromise rather than how long before my brakes fail. Brakes are always a threat to fail, especially low tech brakes.

it’s easier to budget for ego torrets and practise practical rapid response smoothing techniques that accept all versions of reality regardless of ego insecurities. My own ‘my space’ control brakes revolve around confidence, honesty and not torture. You wouldn’t cancel Glastonbury because someone thought they saw a purple haze cloud, i don’t see the harm in diverse concepts of realities if they are not demonised and not torture threats.

Anchoring decency traffic can’t be done with a one window road. Accepting decency traffic is a lot easier with on /off tech tube access to all mainstreaming, not just local plan z blocking tactics. Placebo plan t tech mate solutions would be my tip, not meds or morals. Isolation with connected streaming could link up any decent and indecent versions of reality with all others, surely the market research of potential infinity would tech tube main stream filtered solutions better than any one way street dead end that only infected itself more and more with compound errors. i personally think things are rolling ok, at least a lot better than a few years before, (allowing for any versions of main stream time scales).
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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby Isaiah » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:23 pm

AnxxietyAttacks wrote:i see bugs that arent there.

funny...someone said they touched a hallucinations as well as see it. ive dont that a few times. i see a beetle on my chest that just sits there, and i try to grab it or flick it off.



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I see bugs a lot, spiders on the wall, bugs flying towards my face or crawling on me.
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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby Se7en7 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:33 pm

I guess i've been lucky, my 'attacks' have never been very serious. I had a weird hallucination when i was younger though, Basically i was in my room playing with toys or whatever. I started to smell smoke, and even see it, .. Then i heard screams. I was running around the house, and i could see flames. I looked into the kitchen, and saw that the whole room was on fire. The screaming just didn't stop.

I ran outside and ran to the next door neighbours, to call for help. They came over, and then i kind of 'snapped' out of it. nobody was home, and the house was in perfect condition.

I've had visual hallucinations since, But this has to be the most memorable/detailed. All of my senses were involved, real deep hallucination.
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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby Jaspar » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:49 pm

Oh, and READING things that don't say what you see them as saying. It is as real as if signs and books really are written as what you are reading. When you feel maggots crawling in your arms, it is totally real. I just wish some people had to go through this even once so that they would UNDERSTAND!
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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby Bandelero » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:42 pm

you mean you can hallucinate holding something and still think its fiction??????????????? for me if u can hold something in your hand or touch it it gotta be real but if u think something else let me know
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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby Rattatat » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:00 am

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Re: Visual hallucccinations, how real can they be?

Postby IDK357 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:57 am

Bandelero wrote:you mean you can hallucinate holding something and still think its fiction??????????????? for me if u can hold something in your hand or touch it it gotta be real but if u think something else let me know


I have to agree with this entirely. The things I touch are very real. I might be hallucinating it but I really would never know the difference. On occasion I have been asked why my hands are curled up. I assume that's because I am holding "unreal" material but I really can't recall right now any time that has happened.

The most real hallucinations I have ever had were when my husband was away (he's Army). I have felt him touch me in the middle of the night and even had sex. In the morning I KNOW it was not real but in the moment it was very real.
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