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Postby sammy65 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:37 pm

I have always struggled with TB plus, I have intrusive OCD type thoughts (Pure OCD) that I end up obsessing won't be heard buy others. Lately my friends and family have distanced me. In one month over 15 FB friends who were close or neutral associates deleted me from FB. Just before my illness began all these people (I wasn't really close like that with) wanted to add me as their FB Top friends list, now these people don't talk to me anymore. I feel like I did something bad, is a disgrace, and have let people down. I have always felt like people were able to tell my diagnosis b/c they were able to hear my thoughts. Now this belief has progressed to me feeling like all my thoughts are being transmitted (in the same fashion that a radio transmits frequencies). I feel like anyone can have access to my thoughts. People tend to always be nasty to me, even when I am trying my hardest to be nice to them. If they aren't in deep concentration, starring intensely at nothing (which I perceive as their reaction of concentration when listening to my thoughts). They always look annoyed and/or angry at my presence (especially in my classes). I feel like I have done something really bad to these people by the way the react towards me. The only thing I could think of is that there something about me that is really bothering them (I don't smell or have bad breath), so I am thinking that they are picking up my thoughts and its distracting to them. I have deliberately thought a thought to elicit an emotion in people nearby who then turn their attention towards me as if I had said something to them out loud or on occasion I have watched the expression on their faces in reaction to the thought. I feel like an underground network exists where people can go up and access my thoughts and make commentaries about the thoughts I have when I am around them. I don't feel like any of my thoughts are private anymore. I can't tell you how many occasions I have thought about something and then witness reactions to them by things done by others, online, the media...etc. Since I got ill people living below or above me have been shadowing me where ever I go in my apartment. Currently, its my landlady and her son (especially her son). My only explanation for this is they they are using some type of technology that allows them to track me around the house...but my reasoning to this is 'why'?, even if that were the case what would the point be? I just think they are shadowing me to pick up my thoughts. Sometimes I'll have loose associated thoughts just before I fall into a deep sleep. I have noticed that sometimes when this happens the landlady's son will let out a growl of annoyance (like something is annoying him). If it were the case that he could pick up my thoughts then I could understand why he would e annoyed that I have awaken him from his sleep with my scattered thoughts. I am trying to make much sense (as much as this seems irrational) of this that I can. People picking up my thoughts explains everything! The treatment, the distance, the stares, the unfriending on FB, etc. If my OCD thoughts are being projected as my rational thoughts or thoughts that I believe and produce voluntarily (which would be the case this situation-b/c I am assuming that these people don't understand what OCD is...and that the people perpetuating this would exaggerate things for their benefit (cause if it is not interesting then nobody will care)). I am just frustrated!
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Re: Eyerone Knows !!!

Postby Rattatat » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:48 am

My views on the modern world is somewhat different to what most people think. If you stick out like a sore thumb cause you are different you can be hacked by a database... which is many people's thoughts all concentrated into one place so in effect they CAN READ YOUR THOUGHTS OR ANYTHING ABOUT YER LIFE. The INTERNET helps achieve this but most people are just sheep and do not understand what goes on but the more unignorant and different people will cum to conclusions in life but not get it exactly right. But hey in whatever percentage EVERYBODY is correct on their views of the world and life. The thing to do when U are losing rtepetitive games is not be so critical of others in yer views but put yerself to the test. Practice and U will get better for sure.
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Re: Eyerone Knows !!!

Postby visualizations » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:45 am

Well many of us have heard the story of someone going too far, and developing schizophrenia. What you can easily do is test this by asking someone what you just thought. Now Im not saying that "synchronicty" or higher dimensional forces don't exist. But what I am saying is that others are not "consciously" percieving what you percieve. As of yet, there is no scientific evidence of this happening repeatdly over solid ground. Well what you really need is to calm your brain with some medicine because you are at a state where you feel isolated via the interconnectness of communication. Also, dont worry about facebook too much, its virtual. The people that are actually around you are more important, and your ideas are more important.
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Re: Eyerone Knows !!!

Postby rog » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:59 pm

hi sammy, rattatat, and vis,i think it's the topic of the day to try and stop boss hog hogging the ball with any tech issues that are flying about. you've all helped pass the ball to me and i'd pass back any help i could. no one's superman or supergirl, but super brain is an optiion if you cap your negotiable claims to a symbolic 49 percent. superman may not be possible but any symbolic anti kryptonite is always in need of any super versions of it. i'm no names and numbers reference expert but think anti kryptonite is a healthy direction for any experts with ambitious skill standards, like i've heard vis mention interest in before.
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Re: Eyerone Knows !!!

Postby WhatIsReality » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:01 am

Hey, I'm sorry for the pain that this is causing you.

I have this happen to me a lot. It was particularly frequent during my psychotic episode a few months ago, during that time everyone could read my thoughts, but I couldn't read theirs which leads to feelings of inferiority. It made me feel like an outdated person model that hadn't learned how to read thoughts yet.

I remember feeling tortured by those that were reading my thoughts since I consider my thought life private. They would point out all the flaws that I have, or think I have. I remember thinking at first that they were just trying to torture me because they were sadistic. Then I had another thought, perhaps their intentions weren't bad. Perhaps the torture was a process that led to some good. The fact is I don't know what happened.

Whether this is real or not I do not know, but I do know that torture is real painful, whether its our minds playing tricks, or us touching on something that science can't explain yet.

In order to function somewhat normally in life, I have had to tell myself that it is impossible for someone to read my thoughts. At least that's the mindset I have to hold when I go out into a social situation, otherwise I emotionally spiral out of control.

I like to put my experience in a more true and less painful perspective.
It goes kinda like this:
Society labels what I experienced as "crazy" or insane mumbojumbo that happened for no reason. Society enjoys pointing its finger and me and saying "well he just cracked, what he experienced isn't real, we've never experienced that, this person must have a disease of the mind!" without really explaining cause.
Just because a phenomenon wasn't shared, doesn't mean that it isn't real. Because that's what it comes down to doesn't it? What's real, what's not real? Am I going insane?

Socially speaking being labelled crazy is bad. You will be an outsider, one who is outside of the main stream of what is generally accepted as reality. There is a pack mentality out there, and I can only guess that it makes others feel threatened when there is an unknown process going on inside my noggin, or yours, or any number of people that have experienced this. (If the process of thinking actually happens in the brain. There is the mind-body problem)

But anyways back to coping, and putting things in perspective to help me feel less tortured socially.

I like to find the absurdity in the beliefs of others, and the hypocrisy that it creates.

Take the common belief in a God.
92% of Americans believe in a god, or universal spirit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/23/ST2008062300818.html

How strange, wouldn't you say? I was a Christian once. I rejected it, since I decided I couldn't believe in something I couldn't touch with my senses (faith). I took up science. I had a psychotic break from reality, that allowed me to see things I have never seen, and that others couldn't see.

So I touched something. I don't know what it was, but I am all of a sudden reminded of doubting Thomas.

Anyways, these people believe in something they can't see or explain properly. Important BTW here: I think that current Christian ideas of God are naive(along with other religions). But they may be hitting on a solid point, that point being that there is indeed something else going on that can't be explained properly. Yet.

Right. Back to coping. Ideas become outdated. Perhaps I'm upgrading my ideas, while others in Society decide to main stream on ideas. Perhaps I'm wrong. I don't know, but the point is I and you, and many others have a unique perspective to question reality from. I like to see my psychotic break as an alternate reality with which I can compare mainstream reality.

It's plato's cave. Its like having had to watch the shadows for 20 of my years, then being freed to go outside and take a glimpse outside the cave, and then going back into the cave and having your fellow cave dwellers state that there is nothing outside of the cave, and even though you did see something outside of the cave, it wasn't as real as the shadows in the cave.

So there it is. I like to think of myself as having looked outside of the cave. And I think anyone in Society (friends family strangers) who hasn't gone outside of the cave but claim all the same that there isn't an outside world, only the world inside the cave, then they are the ones who are ignorant. Even though I may not know what it is, I have seen something, heard something, felt something.

And then the problem is I still live in that same cave. Problems arise because there is a disparity between main stream cave dweller belief that reality is the shadows dancing on the wall, and my belief that there is a world outside the cave.

I've gone on too long, but the point is your in pain, obviously, as am I. And I have lessened that pain by trying to put other's perspectives in the proper perspective given what I have experienced. And taking into account if others, have, or have not experienced anything similar is relevant in deciding whether or not you or I should take their opinion on the matter.

It's also nice to know that you are out there along with a host of others with the same experiences.

I enjoy thinking of the similarities between believing in a god (which 92% of people do) and being termed crazy. We have all these people in society who claim to hear from an all knowing being called God. These same people point at people who are hearing voices and call them nuts. Its pure hypocrisy.
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Re: Eyerone Knows !!!

Postby rog » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:03 am

WhatIsReality wrote:Hey, I'm sorry for the pain that this is causing you.

I have this happen to me a lot. It was particularly frequent during my psychotic episode a few months ago, during that time everyone could read my thoughts, but I couldn't read theirs which leads to feelings of inferiority. It made me feel like an outdated person model that hadn't learned how to read thoughts yet.

I remember feeling tortured by those that were reading my thoughts since I consider my thought life private. They would point out all the flaws that I have, or think I have. I remember thinking at first that they were just trying to torture me because they were sadistic. Then I had another thought, perhaps their intentions weren't bad. Perhaps the torture was a process that led to some good. The fact is I don't know what happened.

Whether this is real or not I do not know, but I do know that torture is real painful, whether its our minds playing tricks, or us touching on something that science can't explain yet.

In order to function somewhat normally in life, I have had to tell myself that it is impossible for someone to read my thoughts. At least that's the mindset I have to hold when I go out into a social situation, otherwise I emotionally spiral out of control.

I like to put my experience in a more true and less painful perspective.
It goes kinda like this:
Society labels what I experienced as "crazy" or insane mumbojumbo that happened for no reason. Society enjoys pointing its finger and me and saying "well he just cracked, what he experienced isn't real, we've never experienced that, this person must have a disease of the mind!" without really explaining cause.
Just because a phenomenon wasn't shared, doesn't mean that it isn't real. Because that's what it comes down to doesn't it? What's real, what's not real? Am I going insane?

Socially speaking being labelled crazy is bad. You will be an outsider, one who is outside of the main stream of what is generally accepted as reality. There is a pack mentality out there, and I can only guess that it makes others feel threatened when there is an unknown process going on inside my noggin, or yours, or any number of people that have experienced this. (If the process of thinking actually happens in the brain. There is the mind-body problem)

But anyways back to coping, and putting things in perspective to help me feel less tortured socially.

I like to find the absurdity in the beliefs of others, and the hypocrisy that it creates.

Take the common belief in a God.
92% of Americans believe in a god, or universal spirit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/23/ST2008062300818.html

How strange, wouldn't you say? I was a Christian once. I rejected it, since I decided I couldn't believe in something I couldn't touch with my senses (faith). I took up science. I had a psychotic break from reality, that allowed me to see things I have never seen, and that others couldn't see.

So I touched something. I don't know what it was, but I am all of a sudden reminded of doubting Thomas.

Anyways, these people believe in something they can't see or explain properly. Important BTW here: I think that current Christian ideas of God are naive(along with other religions). But they may be hitting on a solid point, that point being that there is indeed something else going on that can't be explained properly. Yet.

Right. Back to coping. Ideas become outdated. Perhaps I'm upgrading my ideas, while others in Society decide to main stream on ideas. Perhaps I'm wrong. I don't know, but the point is I and you, and many others have a unique perspective to question reality from. I like to see my psychotic break as an alternate reality with which I can compare mainstream reality.

It's plato's cave. Its like having had to watch the shadows for 20 of my years, then being freed to go outside and take a glimpse outside the cave, and then going back into the cave and having your fellow cave dwellers state that there is nothing outside of the cave, and even though you did see something outside of the cave, it wasn't as real as the shadows in the cave.

So there it is. I like to think of myself as having looked outside of the cave. And I think anyone in Society (friends family strangers) who hasn't gone outside of the cave but claim all the same that there isn't an outside world, only the world inside the cave, then they are the ones who are ignorant. Even though I may not know what it is, I have seen something, heard something, felt something.

And then the problem is I still live in that same cave. Problems arise because there is a disparity between main stream cave dweller belief that reality is the shadows dancing on the wall, and my belief that there is a world outside the cave.

I've gone on too long, but the point is your in pain, obviously, as am I. And I have lessened that pain by trying to put other's perspectives in the proper perspective given what I have experienced. And taking into account if others, have, or have not experienced anything similar is relevant in deciding whether or not you or I should take their opinion on the matter.

It's also nice to know that you are out there along with a host of others with the same experiences.

I enjoy thinking of the similarities between believing in a god (which 92% of people do) and being termed crazy. We have all these people in society who claim to hear from an all knowing being called God. These same people point at people who are hearing voices and call them nuts. Its pure hypocrisy.

Hi what’s reality. if you read my recent posts on Sammy 65’s gang stalking thread they explain in context the MYStery of plato’s cave etc in a context of unique MY (Mind and bodY)separation, that result’s in a MY’S answer to any MYStery of divorcing from reality.
I mention about red/amber being like private face value red with an amber hybrid under current shadow. E.g like rattatat having the same initials as me involved in his avatar name and also the same connection to new zealand as zane lowe from radio one and also a connection to new zealand enough to remind me of my old social worker who was called caroline who has a connection to radio caroline an old pirate radio station. It sounds like references picked out of a hat but i’m just using them as an example of undercurrent and how the world can soon become like a pirate media Wikipedia reference jigsaw that moulds around access lanes to collateral references. There must be loads of other people or other versions of the small world small print reference moulding. My history is full of them. it’s like we’re all like constant nexus worker drones all sourcing out sources of collateral.
The zane lowe reference reminds me of how ac/cc current (plan a and plan b becoming two plan c versions of the connectivity of the history of how original root face value a journeys to in the moment current c then meets the other plan b versions of what current c is and clashes both plan a and plan b versions of plan c together like a beat clash of different histories forming a more honest current that doesn’t try and force both versions together into an impossible ac/dc one direction current.
It’s one progression not one direction, and the old plan x clashes with plan y getting judged by plan z instead of a plan t tech solution (e.g like ac/cc current), reminds me of the Zane lowe reference i.e plan z being the low spec collateral tech. (nothing to do with the people mentioned on face value, i was just highlighting how face value identikits need to accept the undertones of undercurrent that cause trauma if misunderstood).
It may help to allow for my poor sentence construction i normally post early in the morning or late at night and often am half asleep. My point is there has often been a constant struggle to connect red to red, man to man marking with man to man honesty. It often results in red amber to red, or red amber to amber red, small print connectivity instead of red amber to red amber clarity. (using the uk traffic lights as symbolism, red for stop, amber for get ready and green for go, then using red to highlight impossible freedom and privacy, green to highlight impossible compliancy and omni public ownersip, and amber to highlight hybrid choices. If red face value uses and accepts an amber undercurrent shadow then there is no more need for individual red and green choices other than as learning curves, like growing out of believing in santa etc.
It’s like plan a, plan b, plan c, and plan d are all constantly asking the question of what’s plan d. I defuse the pressure by thinking in terms of c steps music, like two c beats that never meet but try and achieve acceptance of a d beat compromise.
like scrapping win lose and draw thinking and clearing the sensory traffic possession highway code by having two clear options of draw or void. Draw or void means no more mean girls, gossip girls culture being bullied into exaggerating the worst from both c beats.
Instead you could have c beat rolling waves of RA/D, AC/CC, C STEPS MUSIC. i.e each c step at a time but within ac/cc time not ac/dc time. so all c steps are honestly and decently respected. The ideal Red/ Amber two way frequency mirror can then try and officially or unofficially prop and lean a Draw compromise to achieve RA/D status. Anything else could then be seen as an official or unofficial prop/prop or lean/lean void like RA/V status. Obviously the frequency mirrors never reflect the same mood signals twice, like spicing up any groundhog day by accepting it as normal not not normal and being practical about it not personal.
My point is the MYStery plan D Draw beat then becomes like a magnet to all decent collateral highways. like having a constant avatar, console game, film that kept a connected target instead of diluting into divide and void dissolved collateral sequels and prequels.
it took me a while to get to my main point but main stream m1 main collateral arteries are like mainstreaming red/amber two way frequency mood mirror broadcasts. You highlighted the relevance of ‘main stream’ and ‘my’ in your previous post. My point is mainstreaming is only practical if done with a dual cornerback and wide receiver mentality. It’s pointless uploading or down loading private red or public green media traffic versions without respecting the red/amber streaming logic of mainstreaming.
Ac/dc current is like subscribing to void decency feedback instead of subscribing to valid decency ac/cc feedback. I personally think FEEDBACK DEPRIVATION is the biggest cause of status distortion and environment dysfunction. It causes ac/dc constant awkward plan z compromises of on/off baton changing instead of smoother ac/cc relays. It’s like agent’s trying to find god particles. It’s pointless trying to catch a god particle if there’s no corner back there to mark the receiver. it’s shallow grave digging logic. feedback deprivation is what disconnects primary and local climates with other primary and local climates. Essentially it applies to all potential infinity.
All climates exist in one plane of existence, separated only by how connected or not they are to mainstreaming. Any exaggerated one way street ego blind spots could cause symbolic solar glare crashes when directly contacting the under current of all other versions of reality. all plan, a,b,c and d beat versions are all traffic policed by vicarious collateral, slip streaming, main streaming. not by one agent who has the hot line to all the extra’s and stars. I use the trace and tube logic of accepting how collateral main streaming works. It’s vicarious and could only work on common decency especially in potential infinite terms. Any policing or tube reactions take care of themselves if the prop and lean collateral hits enough mainstreaming common decency.
Anything personal or offline should be left to the vicarious weather to slip stream into divisions of divide and draw within one league of sensory media traffic. less voids and more draws equals better choices of climate all round, without wasting effort on what’s a double agent or not etc.
Cutting health costs, social welfare and debt is a no brainer by using main stream tech access to replace huge chunks of budgets. Sport, music, sex etc are all what makes the world(s) go round. If freeways were tech freeways and worked on honest market research feedback instead of dishonest blocking then the worlds debt crisis would be sorted in two seconds.
Honest versions of truth are possible, knowing actual truth is never possible. Feedback deprivation is caused by tech deprivation which is caused by ac/dc business instead of ac/cc business. Personally i think climate care needs c steps health culture. the worlds real debt issue is it’s education and media debt to honesty. Wikipedia you tube new tube are obvious ways to link face book and twitter to all time and reality versions of a to c current journeys. Like the ultimate MY space travelling within one plane of all potentially infinite MY versions.
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