support system

Just interested in seeing who you guys go to for support and to talk?

My mom is pretty much the only one who listens to me and understands me.

I tried talking to my one best friend about the things that go on. He thinks I'm being haunted by spirits. And tells me there's nothing mentally wrong with me.

I don't talk to my girlfriend about the freaky things either, she gets too uncomfortable.

My mom is bipolar, but a lot of things I'm going through, she has too.

It's nice that you can talk to your mom and that she understands the things you go through.

I talk openly to my fiance and my closest friends....two of my friends are bipolar, so they understand fairly well. Everyone else, well, they don't have a clue, but they're always so open and willing to try to help. Of course I talk to my therapist as well. This place is a huge support for me. I also attend AA - not b/c I have a drinking problem - but I learn a lot of helpful things in the meetings that I can use on my own time to gain a little more clarity and insight into my own life and behaviors.

I talk to my Mom too and my Dad and my brother. I was blessed with a wonderful family. None of them have any idea what I'm going through but they really help keep me grounded.

Then I have a support group I go to on Mondays and Tuesdays just for schizophrenics and bipolar folks. Sometimes I skip... We get to talk about all our crazy stuff. After I started going to these meets I realized how "text-book" my case of schizophrenia is. The illness makes us feel unique and so overly special which might lead to one of the symptoms of grandeur. So I can see now that I'm just like everyone else... and that this really is an illness - not a messiah complex in my case.

I also have a church group I go to on Sundays for Sant Mat. That's my religion. Not too many people there know I'm a schizophrenic but it's a help nonetheless. We get to meditate together which I look forward to all week. It's such a powerful shared experience.

You really do need a support group when you have this illness. Well...everyone needs someone to talk to I think. But especially schizophrenics need to know that there's other people going through the same things. This gives us a reference point that helps us understand that yes, we are ill. The monsters in the closet are not real. They aren't really there....

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Wow, you seem to have a somewhat busy schedule, crazymoth. I went to one meeting like that before. An anonymous group thing. I couldn't do it...and then it hit me, I realized my social anxiety and agoraphobia was just as bad as my schizoaffective disorder.

I only have my father to talk to. I used to have one good friend i'd talk to it about, but he got tired of my talking about it. I don't blame him. We havent been friends for awhile now. My mother is out of the question because I get called lazy and numerous other self-esteem destroying words & phrases.

Well... My brother has anxiety disorder. He stopped working and wouldn't go out for like 2 years. But he started going to some of these meets and met someone there. He actually fell in love with the therapist, they started dating, etc, etc. So he finally got a job, moved out, he has his own place now, and does all the stuff that needs doing, work, errands, plus a relationship.

So I know having anxiety disorder isn't terminal. maybe you might try again going to some meets. You never know who you'll meet.

Me... I might not have anxiety but I'm still the shiest kid around girls. maybe someday I'll find someone willing to date a schizophrenic.

(you can always pm me if you need someone to talk with. I'm a good listener plus I won't call you crazy or lazy )

I just had the worse social anxiety today, and I didn't go to sleep. Instead I stayed up for class. This exaberated my symptoms as worse as they've been for several weeks. But now they are much lower. Its like from being inside, I forgot all social relations and get uncomfortable feelings of grandeur, persecution, relation confabulation and delusions. After my first mini-anxiety attack. I talked again in class, and alot of it went away. Its like I become a scared baby again all of a sudden several times. I said something kind of cool I was actually talking about astral projection and how it points to some dimensional connection between minds if two people are sleeping and they end up dreaming in the same place. Which kind of takes a hit at the supramundane reductionist standpoint since we were talking about spirit in class. I forgot the best part and didn't remember it untill two hours later, but is probably too confabulated to believe. It was a re-statement of something I wrote.

Well, this question is the same question that parts spirit from science. Elementary propositions are the work of any hard science. What is behind neuroscience for example are weak mathematical calculations of modulations, agonisms and antagonisms. Dictation, intuition, literature, and the intuition of elementary propositions themselves are higher manifolds. Dictation many times holds higher manifolds than pure logic even if they are sporadic, non-progressional and precarious in value. So “spirit” or the absolute idea(s) would be closer to highly complex manifolds than elementary propositions. When someone is speaking to someone there is an entire chain of multifaceted connections that are made, even if they are only discreet. So when science rules out spirit, it is the inability of the paradigm of logic to encapsulate the logic of history.

After class I saw this really pretty girl, and I knew she wanted me to sit by her. Because I'm really good at social cues, but probably not as good as I think. I just kept thinking about her, and eventually we started having a conversation automatically obviously voice delusions, and she even said she wanted wanted to ###$ me. So, I just kept on trying to remember what I thought in class instead, but I probably should of gone up to her. I just got this intense feeling of liking her looks alot, but most likely not liking her personality. So I didn't do it. Next time I'm going to go up to a person I unconsciously want to talk to alot, and see what happens. Maybe the symptoms will go away, like when I initate a conversation, or maybe I'll say something stupid.


I talk to my mom the most. She supports a meaningful translation of events rather than just the reductionist its nonsense approach. I don't actually do it often, I just watch the possibilities. I actually got a good idea on how to act with someone earlier in the day from a voice. I have a "nurse practitioner" not a psychologist and she hasen't even diagnosed me yet. If I were to find a therapist it would have to be someone that is intuitively insightful instead of just letting me speak it out because I don't want to hear things I already know. No professional has ever fed my mind. I told alot of my friends that I have it, but they have no idea. I also have a bipolar friend who kind of knows a little bit, but hes always too flighty. I asked him to meet again at school, but hes in a messed up mood because of his breakup. Some people might think im like an enlightened mad man, others think im garbage, some are scared probably, but I can read the neuroscience and physics of color, know all the wavelengths and brain activations but wouldn't know what the color red felt like if I was color blind. I tried going to a group once, but it seemed most of the people there were much worse off than me. Its actually as hard to be a functional schizophrenic because you have to go between imaginary reality and tackle the world everyday at the same time. I do feel like I am very strong for doing it, and hopefully this will all cease over two years and I will end up being grateful for years. What can happen as likely is that I would have to crash multiple times, hold myself together and just toss my self around untill I find the right place to lay down. I do plan on working alongside my schizophrenia as much as I can. I don't think anyone has reached that level, but its a better thought than dreading its existence every second.

I'm just going to take some medicine and go to sleep now. Sleep is very important for my symptoms, and also not doing any drugs is very important. Hopefully this doesn't come back again tommorow.

I do plan on working alongside my schizophrenia as much as I can.

This might help but I don't think you have to. I actually try to deal with it as little as possible - throw it out the door as much as I can. This usually leads to a struggle but you learn new skills because of the struggle. I'm almost to the point of being able to shut off the schizophrenia from the inside - short-circuit it.

The creative part of my schizophrenia I do like working with. I use my schizo for inspiration in my artistic work and for harnessing special points of view. I think this is natural for me though... part of my personality.

I hope you are doing better today. That post sorta worried me. Hope you're ok! Yeah, sleep is so important. I know exactly how you feel. It's not healthy to go too far down the rabbit hole.