Have you recovered from Chronic Schizophrenia?

Hello,

I am just putting this post here to try to locate others that were diagnosed a chronic schizophrenic and consider themselves to have beaten it. I believe I have beaten it even though I am still a bit of an alienated oddball. What else could you be after an experience such as that. In addition, I do not believe schizophrenia is an illness, I believe its a natural healing process, I am anti psychiarty, I am using standard psych jargon but I really dont like their labels.

I would love to discuss what you experienced, and your perspectives on life.

Please leave a message here as I come back and check this post.

Regards
Latitudinarian.

I'm just speaking for my son...who is 21 and was dx'd with SZ at age 16. NOw he still HAS to take his meds everyday but he leads a quite normal life. Yes he still hallucinates...but he has taught himself who is real and who is not. When it's a hallucination he chooses to ignore them and not interact with them. His delussions are prety much stopped, his anxiety level is quite low and he doesn't hear voices any more. He takes a minimum of meds and functions as well or better than most people I know.

I do believe schizophrnia is an illness.....but I think that you can live a normal productive life given meds if needed and working with yourself. My son works hard at maintaining his mental and physical health. He puts his all into it and has seen the fruits of his labor.

Sweetngentle

hi Latitudinarian.
i was dx with "schizoaffective disorder". i dont take any meds and i dont have any therapy. i think i am doing much better since i gave them up. although i still have a have a strange belief system i try not to let myself get paranoid and upset. its pretty hard-work sometimes but i am feeling much better about myself.

Latitudinarian wrote:

In addition, I do not believe schizophrenia is an illness, I believe its a natural healing process, I am anti psychiarty, I am using standard psych jargon but I really dont like their labels.

i agree.

im glad to hear Your doing well. J
take care
lunar

Latitudinarian wrote:


In addition, I do not believe schizophrenia is an illness, I believe its a natural healing process, I am anti psychiarty, I am using standard psych jargon but I really dont like their labels.


I see most of the neurotic disorders as unsuccessful survival mechanisms, but still I believe that they might have something to offer and they are supposed to protect from something anyway, even if they cause a lot of unneccessary trouble to the person with the neurosis, that goes overboard. I definetly think that schizophrenia is an illness though. Seeing and hearing nonexistent things does sound like much trouble.

sweetngentle wrote:I'm just speaking for my son...who is 21 and was dx'd with SZ at age 16. NOw he still HAS to take his meds everyday but he leads a quite normal life.

Sweetngentle i am sorry but i find this quite offensive. what right do you have to "speak for" your son? he "HAS" to take his meds? why because you said so?
are you aware that the meds your son are taking are having long term affects on his nervous system and that by taking them he is only adding to his problems and will never hope to recover?
have you ever wondered if part of your son’s problem might be that you have stolen his voice? that his world and experiences are constantly being undermined and devalued by you and everyone around him?
i will tell you why your son "chooses" not to interact with the voices... it is because he knows that he will be punished if he does.

i'm sorry if this sounds harsh but i felt i had to say something.
please take care of yourself and your son
all the best
lunar

Lunar,
Rather than attacking me why not ask me a few questions? For instance does your son mind you speaking for him? NO, he has asked me many times to answer posts in the SZ forum as he is not able to do so himself.

Or...what is your son's view on taking his meds? The answer woul d be ...he takes them because he wants to. About two mos ago he ws in a psych hosp. Why? He was court ordered to go as he became homicidal after quiting his meds for 4 mos.

or ....why does he chooose to not interact with the people who are in his hallucinations. Hss answer would be....because if I do I'm afraid I will become sick again. I want to stay menttaly healthy.

I'm not going to make any more responses to your post as I do not want turn turn this thread into a deate....or to take away frm what the original poster wanted the subject to be....a post not an arguement.

Sweetngentle

Hi LunarC

Its me Anti Psych, I changed my username so I wouldnt scare people off.

I read your comments about Sweetngentle's son. Changing culture is going to take a long long time comrade. Trying to get the chronically normal to see that they are in a false conciousness of non-madness and their state of mind is not healthy may not be feasible. We must realise this, spare a thought for poor old Copernicus and his ilk, trying to convince the ignorants that the earth was, in fact, round. Unfortunately we probably will end up inheriting ruins, it is quite feasible that chronically normal will blast and destroy there world before they leave the stage of history. But from these ruins we will be able to write their history of madness, a madness by which humans in an act of sovereign reason, confined their neighbours in the merciless language of non-madness, we will be able to define the moment of this conspiracy before it was permanently established in the realm of truth, before it was revived by the lyricism of protest. We will be able to return, in history, to that zero point in the course of madness at which madness and non madness is an undifferentiated experience, a not yet divided experience of division itself. I have no doubt they will be exposed at some point in history and our so called enlightened epoch will be viewed as the dark ages.

I read allot of Foucault!

In the interim what can we do? I believe the best form of revenge is to live well. it seems to me LunarC that when you look around most people are in consensus trance, we are all pretty much hypnotised into this state as infants and this process continues most of our lives. The best way to snap out of it is to use mindfulness, this is a process of keeping track of what our minds are doing. Using your minds eye continually monitor what your mind is doing. Its a very simple thing to do, you quickly end up living in the present moment, instead of worrying about the future or past, its extremely liberating and you will be streaks infront of other humans.

What have I done lunarC? I have put this post up wanting to just talk to people that were diagnosed with chronic schizophrenia, that have recovered, and see the experience as a healing process. I dont want to debate it? Oh well!!

Is this an American site? Do you know?

Live well and enjoy! Catch you next time.

PS
"Blessed are the cracked for they let in the light". Spike Miligan.

Reply to"Somebody".

I get the impression that you haven't been diagnosed with chronic schizophrenia. Please correct me if I am wrong.

You are correct. I don't have schizophrenia. I have a few remnants of social anxiety, meaning that I still feel social anxious once a while and a low self esteem. I also probably had dysthymia in the past.

Hi somebody,

Thanks for your reply, sorry about the anxiety stuff, I have had panic attacks (my fear flight mechanism is turned on for no good reason) a truely horrible experience.

FYI I have attached this link. Its explores in detail SZ as a healing process.

http://www.global-vision.org/interview/perry.html

I have put this post here in an attempt to contact people that have recovered from chronic schizophrenia, I just hope to compair notes.

Kind Regards
Lat