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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby Mansion » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:42 am

I'm unable to hold a job because the Schizoid symptoms have become unmanageable after the stress of the last few years. I have significant anxiety, periods of dissociation, and lately, even mild psychosis because it this disorder.

just my anecdote. But... not so fast with the "not suffering" thing there.
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby SoullessSingularity » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:14 am

I'd totally rather be schizoid than borderline. It just takes less energy in my opinion to be relatively distant than it is to be so intmate and vivid as a borderline mentality tends to go. Of course, I'd rather have neither and stick with having no personality disorder... something more understood by people, something I don't feel so isolated from.
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby KamikazeK » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:05 am

Sometimes, I'm not really sure if I'd even rather be more normal. I feel like if I had more of a desire to be a social person, I may lose something of myself in the process.

If I had to choose between being alone, but still being myself, and being more socially engaged, but not being the same person that I am, I would stick with what I know. I don't really want to be like everybody else.
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby labandita » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:26 am

Hi, it´s my first post and sorry for my english it ain´t my native language.

Some time ago i was diagnosed with chronic depression, borderline and schizoid personality disorder. Back then, it was quite a mess, you know, a suicidal and sad person. Maybe it´s just a stupid idea, but sometimes I think that my schizoid part saved me, and therapy of course (mostly one very nice guy, since i wandered from therapist to therapist).
It took me several years to balance and let that logical part rule over the mess that my life became. I´m pretty happy now, alone in my world mostly, but when I go out and play with people it´s hell, a confusing hell that is. I don´t understand people, for example, recently a new friend asked me some sensitive questions and I answered sincerely without thought... after that she gave me an hour long speech of why "you shouldn´t talk about certain topics with people" and all I could think was: so? why did you ask?
Of course it ended pretty bad.
Luckily, it is not frequent that someone gets my attention to become close.
Of course, many times I wish that I could be normal, but on second thoughts, I now like myself very much so that´s out of the question.
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby guess.who.loves.you » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:12 am

I'm a little borderline and a little schizoid, when I can't manage my depression anymore, I become much more schizoid (I guess it's to protect myself)... :roll: So I'd say I have a schizoid part, and a borderline part.

When I'm in my BDP phase, I feel I'm alive. Sometimes I suffer more, but every little thing has a meaning, there's hope, there's something to live for. However, when I'm schizoid, everything is boring and nothing has sense to me, I become a more realistic person.

I'd prefer being schizoid, but the high-grade type. Or being the low-grade type of borderline (this would be the second option, I'd really prefer being schizoid).

BDP is living, feeling, and dreaming.

But I think that SPD is perfection if you can handle the anhedonia.
Durmiendo, en fin, fui bienaventurado,
y es justo en la mentira ser dichoso
quien siempre en la verdad fue desdichado.
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby kelphelp » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:34 am

I think I have a vibrant, colorful inner life as an SPD. I am close with my parents. The few friendships I have are important to me. There is a part of me that wishes to be more comfortable emoting, but I would not want to experience the emotional heights and depths that come with BPD. My internal life is intense enough.
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby femur » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:51 am

Neither. I have never really enjoyed having extreme emotional ups and downs, nor do I enjoy feeling numb. I'd rather my emotions fluctuated within a reasonable spectrum. I don't understand my own emotions because I am sensitive to what others are feeling and need to separate them. Not sensitive in the sense that I am easily upset (quite the opposite) but I am influenced by how others feel without realising it.
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby Daven » Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:23 pm

Schizoid
(or neither, but I'm comfortable and happy with who I am when I'm on my own).

I never understood why I had anhedonia, and it was generally dismissed. I've never felt like I necessarily needed to have it cured, it just bugged me that I didn't know why at the time (and same for people around me).
Dx: Schizoid.
Rx: none.
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby 15407 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:03 am

Schizoid wins by a country mile.

BPD employs a welter of pathological/immature ego defenses interpersonally, effectively retooling/distorting reality to accommodate the disorder.

The pathological defenses are “psychotic” in that there is a complete break with reality:
Splitting, Projection, Denial, Distortion…imagine trying to get through your day lumbered with all of this nonsense.

I became a bit of a BPD maven after a three year relationship with a woman whose behavior was scripted by the disorder. There is nothing enviable about the disorder, and the people suffering from this dreadful condition are more like ghostly apparitions than fully fleshed-out human beings.

A person defines themself, and makes sense of their world, through social interaction (symbolic interactionism). A borderline can only interact with others via pathological/immature ego defenses, so they are never able to define themselves as individuals, or make sense of the world.

Sound like fun to you?

As an aside, I note that there is much talk here of anhedonia and SPD, but it’s always couched in a way that makes it seem as if the rest of inhabitants on the earth are continuously exulting in a dreamy landscape of thrice-blessed felicity.

Misery is the rule, not the exception, and the rule applies to everyone.

“What we call happiness in the strictest sense comes from the(preferably sudden) satisfaction of needs which have been dammed up to a high degree, and it is from its nature only possible as an episodic phenomenon.”
“We are so constituted that we can derive intense enjoyment only by a contrast, and never by a state of things.”
Freud
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Re: Would you rather be Schizoid or Borderline

Postby katana » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:51 pm

I think isolation issues can cause people stress, e.g. when forced to interact with others from day to day. Or perhaps its because I'm gradually becoming more connected to my own emotions that I experience it as unpleasant rather than just be half there and half in my own head.

That doesn't mean its better to have BPD.

I feel most alive when I'm a. running on anger, b. away from people except people who i can class as "not people" (i.e. not connected to society in the same way as most, at the same time as being people i'm comfortable with/used to), c. both self-sufficient and free, and in control, which is pretty much never now. :|
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