Anyone Like Being Isolated?

I don't like to be isolated. I actually like people. I isolate myself because I get many of my interactions wrong and kind of break things where I go and get in trouble. I don't like that about myself so I sometimes stay away.

It's like my spit is made of acid. I don't realise that sometimes what I say or do can be hurtful and my existence alone makes me less than human.

^maybe if you trust someone you can tell him that problem so that he would help.help each other.
but i don't trust others so i don't know how to solve that problem of finding someone you trust.
i don't like being lonely but i don't have a good time when i am social.

Squaredonutwheels wrote:I don't like to be isolated. I actually like people. I isolate myself because I get many of my interactions wrong and kind of break things where I go and get in trouble. I don't like that about myself so I sometimes stay away.

It's like my spit is made of acid. I don't realise that sometimes what I say or do can be hurtful and my existence alone makes me less than human.

LeelaTuranga wrote:. . .
i don't like being lonely but i don't have a good time when i am social.

That sounds like my "Midas Touch", where everything I touch turns to $ hit. When one is alone, one cannot hurt others, only oneself via habitual negative thoughts.

I think we all require interaction; without interaction, we cannot exist for long. In fact, without interaction, we cannot exist at all. Without interaction neglected, unstimulated, children in orphanages begin to rock repeatedly. Without interaction prisoners and victims of torture in solitary confinement slowly lose all perspective as to who or what they are. Studies have revealed their brains shrink. We may retreat; we may withdraw from others, we may have no desire to interact 'directly'; but we have the luxury of interacting 'indirectly'; a forum is one way. In the film 'Shadowlands' a student of C.S. Lewis, comes to answer the question posed by the author 'Why do we read'? He quotes his father; 'We read to know we are not alone''. We might say the same as to why we write...or why we listen to the music, or why we watch a drama unfold on our t.v. screens. The author Kafka after long periods of isolation in his room came to desire human interaction when his solitude became unbearable; 'on those days' he wrote 'I long for an arm...any arm...to bring me back into sway with the rythmn of humanity'. I am taking the words from memory; these are not accurate quotes. But my point is this; we may want to immerse ourselves in solitude; but sooner or later, we all come up for air. It is just a question of when.

I think it may be necessary to stay in rhythm with humanity as not to lose yourself because we are here but I don't think it's quite as necessary to wholefully interact. For me, forums are a learning experience even by sharing my own experiences. It's not to become one with Schizoidism. Most people interact to become a part of something. I am outside of something but still interacting with it. It's similar to the observer stance. I need to interact in order to be a proper observer.

Cholls wrote:

Squaredonutwheels wrote:I don't like to be isolated. I actually like people. I isolate myself because I get many of my interactions wrong and kind of break things where I go and get in trouble. I don't like that about myself so I sometimes stay away.

It's like my spit is made of acid. I don't realise that sometimes what I say or do can be hurtful and my existence alone makes me less than human.

LeelaTuranga wrote:. . .
i don't like being lonely but i don't have a good time when i am social.

That sounds like my "Midas Touch", where everything I touch turns to $ hit. When one is alone, one cannot hurt others, only oneself via habitual negative thoughts.

i don't know about you but he doesn't give a $#%^ when he hurt others. and he doesn't want to change it.
i know one thing for start the most logical thing i should choose caring people that make me feel wanted to talk to or else better be alone.

iwillsteal wrote:I think we all require interaction; without interaction, we cannot exist for long. In fact, without interaction, we cannot exist at all. Without interaction neglected, unstimulated, children in orphanages begin to rock repeatedly. Without interaction prisoners and victims of torture in solitary confinement slowly lose all perspective as to who or what they are. Studies have revealed their brains shrink. We may retreat; we may withdraw from others, we may have no desire to interact 'directly'; but we have the luxury of interacting 'indirectly'; a forum is one way. In the film 'Shadowlands' a student of C.S. Lewis, comes to answer the question posed by the author 'Why do we read'? He quotes his father; 'We read to know we are not alone''. We might say the same as to why we write...or why we listen to the music, or why we watch a drama unfold on our t.v. screens. The author Kafka after long periods of isolation in his room came to desire human interaction when his solitude became unbearable; 'on those days' he wrote 'I long for an arm...any arm...to bring me back into sway with the rythmn of humanity'. I am taking the words from memory; these are not accurate quotes. But my point is this; we may want to immerse ourselves in solitude; but sooner or later, we all come up for air. It is just a question of when.

Yup.

My partner grew up on a family farm where he spent most of his time apart from humans, but with a lot of contact with animals--birds, foxes, squirrels, dogs, cats, his sister's pony, the family cow and goat, turtles, etc.

He is the most mentally healthy person I've met. Honestly, he could live without humans as long as there were lots of animals around. He could not live without animals, however, and a world with only humans and no animals he would consider Hell.

LeelaTuranga wrote:i don't know about you but he doesn't give a $#%^ when he hurt others. and he doesn't want to change it.
i know one thing for start the most logical thing i should choose caring people that make me feel wanted to talk to or else better be alone.

Who is 'he'? The man with whom you burned bridges?

I think many people are unhappy, so unhappy that their misery overflows unconsciously into how they treat others. If someone makes you feel bad, they might have something going on--maybe they got a DUI, maybe a diagnosis of MS, maybe they are constipated (seriously, try being receptive at such a time), maybe their child is giving them a hard time.

^Leela is talking about me I suspect when she says "he".
I posted a venomous reply to her on another thread rather casually and I conveniently underestimated the effect it would have.

iwillsteal wrote:I think we all require interaction; without interaction, we cannot exist for long. In fact, without interaction, we cannot exist at all. Without interaction neglected, unstimulated, children in orphanages begin to rock repeatedly. Without interaction prisoners and victims of torture in solitary confinement slowly lose all perspective as to who or what they are. Studies have revealed their brains shrink. We may retreat; we may withdraw from others, we may have no desire to interact 'directly'; but we have the luxury of interacting 'indirectly'; a forum is one way. In the film 'Shadowlands' a student of C.S. Lewis, comes to answer the question posed by the author 'Why do we read'? He quotes his father; 'We read to know we are not alone''. We might say the same as to why we write...or why we listen to the music, or why we watch a drama unfold on our t.v. screens. The author Kafka after long periods of isolation in his room came to desire human interaction when his solitude became unbearable; 'on those days' he wrote 'I long for an arm...any arm...to bring me back into sway with the rythmn of humanity'. I am taking the words from memory; these are not accurate quotes. But my point is this; we may want to immerse ourselves in solitude; but sooner or later, we all come up for air. It is just a question of when.

I like this. Interesting.
Now I'm going back into loopy land, but I've got this magical belief that the universe is this one being and to exist, it has to separate itself, and through the seperation of opposites, male and female, it can exist through interaction with itself. It keeps the secret that it is actually one, to itself because then it would be alone and cease to exist. Ignorance and seperation give rise to existence, while yearning to become one once more. This probably belongs in the schizo typical or delusional forum.

if there's one thing nons can agree on, it's that social interaction is really important

Squaredonutwheels wrote:Now I'm going back into loopy land, but I've got this magical belief that the universe is this one being and to exist, it has to separate itself, and through the seperation of opposites, male and female, it can exist through interaction with itself. It keeps the secret that it is actually one, to itself because then it would be alone and cease to exist. Ignorance and seperation give rise to existence, while yearning to become one once more. This probably belongs in the schizo typical or delusional forum.

Or Asian religion/philosophy. You just described pretty much the basis of several of them. "Yin/yang", "non-duality" and so on.