Disappearing co-worker

anathegram wrote:contrary to popular (?) belief, not all women are psychopaths

I have always wondered if there is a susceptibility to this. How many times can you be wronged or see wrong by another sex, race, religion, media, political group, etc. before you start thinking it applies to the lot of them.

iabsurdlyexist wrote:

anathegram wrote:contrary to popular (?) belief, not all women are psychopaths

I have always wondered if there is a susceptibility to this. How many times can you be wronged or see wrong by another sex, race, religion, media, political group, etc. before you start thinking it applies to the lot of them.

Unfortunately not very long at all, especially if you're a republican.

naps wrote:Unfortunately not very long at all, especially if you're a republican.

I didn't want to call out anyone specifically but there are trends. I wonder if there is a DNA marker for susceptibility to fear or at least irrational fears. Fear of losing power? Control?

iabsurdlyexist wrote:I didn't want to call out anyone specifically but there are trends. I wonder if there is a DNA marker for susceptibility to fear or at least irrational fears. Fear of losing power? Control?

Fear is definitely a big player. Fear is largely instinctual. The thing is as a human we can get to a more abstract level of thought than just fear, self interest, reproduction, euphoria... but a lot of people never do. It seems to me like this points to that being the "default" state:

http://bss.au.dk/en/insights/2018/samfu ... orce/?T=AU

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases ... 082918.php

It's easier for someone to decide something intellectually dishonest like "all women are going to lie, cheat, and send me to jail just for looking at them the wrong way". Thinking about complexity and accepting multiple possibilities, doubting your in-groups veracity, overcoming your own desires and checking yourself before you allow yourself to believe what you want to believe are all "hard".

Freud wasn't very scientific and his work has all kinds of problems, but I think it's also intuitive to think that there are stages that people potentially become "fixated" on. I think that's why you can have someone that believes "it's all death fears" like the book The Worm At The Core. The book wants to try to say all human motivations are death fears, and for someone that wants to oversimplify things and never got outside the meat-body instinct-driven level of thinking that sounds appealing. Similarly blind indoctrination to certain political principles without deeper examination like is so popular now.

If half the population doesn't have the opportunity available (in terms of education, access, physical disabilities, etc) to even consider greater nuance, two thirds or more of what's left then are blissfully happy not to consider it, and half what's left after that can tell what's going on but is better served by acting with the herd... you don't have much left. Every political movement is co-opted by a massive amount of fodder and opportunists. The worst part is science is going to be the manipulators weapon there... play all the pawns against each other.

So, from the first article, it appears that almost half of the US population still has bonobo ape DNA. I don't think many people openly confess to rooting for a bully and normally, openly talk about doing what's good. Although, I think many people struggle to differentiate words from actions or just don't care to dive deeper into what's really going on.

I think it's odd that people wonder why women would group up for such a conversation. It's been shown time and time again that one voice is rarely heard unless there is social status behind it, which, that article points to. So, it takes many voices to be heard over the one. If men already have an inherent status, it will always take more than one women to be heard.

I think the same thing goes for a bully like Trump. Unless there are enough rational voices, nobody will be heard above him. Well, if my bonobo ape theory is correct, it may not matter until a bigger bully comes along or enough democrats/progressives vote him out.

anathegram wrote:

Parador wrote:That's the problem - there's no penalty for a false accusation, so no incentive not to make them if you are disgruntled about something.

contrary to popular (?) belief, not all women are psychopaths

Actually the popular belief is the opposite - that women are almost never psychopaths. The most famous psychopaths are men, but that doesn't mean women can't be psychopaths. I have read that psychopathy manifests more as externalizing behaviors in men and more as internalizing behaviors in women. False accusing women may be more paranoid and hysterical or borderline personality disordered than actual psychopaths.

And edit - I had my sexual harassment training today. I wrote in my review of the class "clear as mud!" Harassment is in the eyes of the claimant it seems. 20 women in the class and 7 men.

what is this thread for

Just your daily dose of unrelated polarizing political topics, I guess.

It's the internet, after all.

I can't be the only one that likes the occasional off-topic thread, am I? Either way, if sexual harassment is polarizing, it makes much more sense why the conversation was needed. There isn't anyone for sexual harassment, is there?

I appreciate the fact that threads are allowed to stray a little off topic here.

Posters in this forum don't socialize much, but that doesn't mean we don't have opinions we'd like to discuss or hear other viewpoints.

I've used other sites or forums to discuss things in the past but it feels kind of alienating. Too many voices and cursory writing styles. Curious to know if others here use other social media sites a lot and are happy with them.

I wish we had another off topic forum here other than Just For Fun, because there, political and edgy conversation is forbidden. Mental illness can be isolating and Psychforums is a safe haven for a lot of people here who don't feel as comfortable consorting with nons on other platforms.

Parador frequently posts off topic, non sequitur threads in AvPD, and I don't recall seeing them get locked. I suspect the mods there understand that just because a non MH related topic is being discussed, it's still being discussed by people who suffer from PD's.

I think it's funny how here, the off topic thread is frequently used to discuss SPD issues.