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Friendship and Love

Postby mumin » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:15 am

"Unlike the familiar caricature of the schizoid who is not worried about others and cold, most of the schizoid patients who have become patients have expressed in some of their treatment points their craving for friendship and love."

- Harry Guntrip

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Re: Friendship and Love

Postby iabsurdlyexist » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:11 pm

According to Wikipedia, that profile was created by Salman Akhtar. I wasn't sure if you were giving credit to Guntrip or just showing that they agreed on the subject of love.

Personally, I am curious about people and love to observe them but I'd never say I needed the love or involvement of others. It kind of makes me uncomfortable thinking about it.
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Re: Friendship and Love

Postby mumin » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:22 pm

What are your main hobbies?

-- Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:23 pm --

iabsurdlyexist wrote:According to Wikipedia, that profile was created by Salman Akhtar. I wasn't sure if you were giving credit to Guntrip or just showing that they agreed on the subject of love.

Personally, I am curious about people and love to observe them but I'd never say I needed the love or involvement of others. It kind of makes me uncomfortable thinking about it.



What are your main hobbies?
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Re: Friendship and Love

Postby iabsurdlyexist » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:55 pm

Currently, mental health, tending to my garden, cooking and alcohol.
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Re: Friendship and Love

Postby mumin » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:16 pm

iabsurdlyexist wrote:Currently, mental health, tending to my garden, cooking and alcohol.


Nice,
Alcohol is a way to connect to certain feelings,
What do you do when you're drunk?


And it's reminds me that -
Alcohol and drugs
According to Seinfeld, there are people living with schizoid personality disorders who are addicted to drugs or alcohol or other addictions that serve as substitutes for a human relationship.
The inhuman substitute for a human object serves as a defense for a person living with schizoid personality disorder.
When he shows examples of how a person living with

schizoid personality disorder creates a personal relationship with the drug, Seinfeld tells how one addict called heroin "my soothing white pet."
Another acquaintance referred to his crack as "his bad mother."
I met someone addicted who called her "my boyfriend" crack.
Not all addicts call their drugs names, but sometimes it's a sign of personal emotion in a relationship.

Object relations show prominently that drug use and alcoholism increase the fantasy of union with internal objects while allowing indifference to objects from the outside world. Thus addiction seems to be a person living with schizoid personality disorder with symbiotic protection (shared life for mutual benefit).


Ekleberry suggests that marijuana may be the most appropriate ego-synthetic drug for schizoid,
Because it allows for states of fantasy and detachment while keeping distance from others,
Provides a richer inner experience compared to the possibility of obtaining it without a drug - and reduces internal feelings of emptiness and failure because of an inability to take part in life.
Alcohol, which is easily available and certainly available, is a drug that is an obvious choice for schizoid.
Some will prefer both drugs, alcohol and marijuana.
The schizoid will prefer to use drugs in the individual - to achieve the effect of internal processes.
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Re: Friendship and Love

Postby iabsurdlyexist » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:22 pm

I don't get drunk often but when I do, I'm honest. That's one way of saying I become an asshole. However, that's not true because I am a happy drinker. Some people are just easily butthurt when they are angry drunks. That person is usually my wife. :)

As for weed, its made me paranoid the last few times ive tried it so in a way, it feeds my paranoid fantasies. The positive side is that I sleep well.
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Re: Friendship and Love

Postby smirks » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:22 pm

Old psychologists are a trip! There's some big old self-selection bias in that statement.
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Re: Friendship and Love

Postby mumin » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:44 pm

smirks wrote:Old psychologists are a trip! There's some big old self-selection bias in that statement.


I didn't understand what do you mean "self-selection bias"?
I understand the words but I don't get it, my main language is Hebrew
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