Servicemen in your home

Dazz wrote:I'm "semi"-ocd I guess, if people are coming in I need to assure myself once they are gone I can clean up to back how I want things, but I don't mind the presence of servicemen in my place, I am very aware of them being around but I try to minimize their existence as much as I can e.g. once I had to have a new bathtub, and I showed him the bathroom, I might have asked if he wanted a cup of tea, but whatever I did or didn't say, I just closed the living room door and watched some tv, or show or film, probs while on laptop. I cool it with the Hitler speeches over my speakers and the extreme pornography when people are working inside but overall I just do the courtesy thing I learned of asking if they want a cup of tea and then I leave them be to do my thing...it mostly is fine, unless they start using drills and other power tools that make insufferable noise.

The cleaning up was the worst. One of my cats has FIV (feline AIDS) so my no shoes policy is more than just OCD. I had to mop the entire place with disinfectant, then, once that dried, go over it with hot water because I have chemical-OCD. And yes, they used power tools. Drills, sawzalls, and a welding torch. Plaster dust everywhere, including piles of it where they cut through walls. I probably shortened the life of my vacuum cleaner by at least a year: no vacuum, no matter how many filters it has, can deal with plaster dust. It's too fine. Not to mention toxic. I live in an old building.

By the way are you on or off the Trump Train these days? I never could tell. I'm assuming you can't stand the guy, but respect some of his rhetoric.

His comments about immigration threatening the fabric of Europe were probably the most frightening thing he's said yet. He's already garnered a rabid following of pond scum here in the US, and those comments are sure to reach people worldwide who find resonance in them.

Also, what happens in three or seven years when he becomes a private citizen? He's certainly never going to jail no matter what he should be found guilty of. What happens when a loose cannon such as him leaves office with all those presidential secrets?

This is all like a really good movie. It would be better if I didn't feel I was an extra in one of the nuclear annihilation scenes.

muaddib wrote:I could see how OCD would make it worse (because people are inevitably interfering with your habits and normal structure), but I'd say it's not even necessarily a pathological thing. I'm guessing normal people get this way too; maybe they're just a little less drained by it. It's pretty much an invasion of someone's private, sweat-pants and rage-face life by public expectations to be a shiny, happy person.

OCD was pretty much the crux of my problem with the whole thing. I'm both a neat freak and a clean freak, so, with three workmen in here ######6 up my apartment it was the perfect storm.

I anticipated that their presence alone would keep me from being able to concentrate, but I spent most of the time writing. Surprisingly, I was able to really lose myself in it. I was aware they were there, of course, but it wasn't as intrusive as I'd imagined.

It helped that they spoke no english, so they couldn't try to chat me up. That would have probably sent me over the edge. I'm proud of myself: No beer today. Just half a xanax, but that's pretty much an everyday thing.

Funny enough, when I first saw "servicemen," I thought of military personnel and was like, "Wait, isn't that what the 3rd Amendment is for?"

I was waiting for someone to say "serviceperson", to which I would have replied: "Lick me."

naps wrote:By the way are you on or off the Trump Train these days? I never could tell. I'm assuming you can't stand the guy, but respect some of his rhetoric.

His comments about immigration threatening the fabric of Europe were probably the most frightening thing he's said yet. He's already garnered a rabid following of pond scum here in the US, and those comments are sure to reach people worldwide who find resonance in them.

I am for anyone at a time who at the time I see as useful to my own goals/views, at the time of the elections I preferred him to Hillary (though ignoring many issues such as immigration, and my views on voting and "democracy", I more closely fit to a Bernie Sanders/Jill Stein person, I even got the latter when doing a quiz (and I always get left-ish on these quizzes) based on issues) and still do, but he has served his limited purpose now, and I know he is a goof, all you have to do is look at his previous career failures to see that and how he's been brought back to public eye by certain people/groups to see how controlled he is (like all politicians who have a chance at faux "leadership")...I have no idea what he has said about Europe, I rarely follow the news, but based on what you said he said, I agree with him, but its nothing new or original (immigration threatening nations goes back to at least the ancient Greeks, hence why citizenship was based on blood), and even if immigration was stopped, millions of "vibrant" people are already here to deal with.

In regards to chemical-ocd; I never heard of chemical ocd but I reckon I partly have that, I don't know how people can basically poison their surroundings with chemicals and not wash it away or at least not go near for some time.

Dazz wrote:I am for anyone at a time who at the time I see as useful to my own goals/views

I believe most people vote for their best interests whether from the head or heart. It's the reason I stayed away from voting because I wasn't in the game either way. I like to sit back and watch it unfold. Trump and Obama have really revealed the sad state of our politics but Trump is so much more fun to watch.

@Naps
They didn't clean up their own work or just not good enough for your OCD?

iabsurdlyexist wrote:

Dazz wrote:I am for anyone at a time who at the time I see as useful to my own goals/views

I believe most people vote for their best interests whether from the head or heart.

...or ass.

It's the reason I stayed away from voting because I wasn't in the game either way.

By crippling Obamacare, loosening restrictions on unscrupulous insurance providers and doing nothing to reinforce Medicare/SS, Trump is impeding your access to mental health care.

Theoretically I should be somewhat happy with Trump, since he is dismantling environmental protections and fanning the flames of capitalism, both of which will surely hasten the planet's ability to sustain human life. But that's just a small part of the disease he is spreading. I actually don't want him impeached, since Pence will surely work his hardest to spread Christianity like diarrhea sprayed out the backside of an antibiotic-soaked pig.

They didn't clean up their own work or just not good enough for your OCD?

They were trying to sweep up plaster/sawdust from the carpet.

Nobody can clean to my standards.

I believe some people's asses are their heads.

I don't think Trump is helping in certain aspects but he is in others. Even if he took everything away from me, I'd still be me. I'd figure something out. If he really did target me, that wouldn't help my paranoia.

Christianity, LOL.

Yeah, what's up with people not understanding clean?!?!

naps wrote:...work his hardest to spread Christianity like diarrhea sprayed out the backside of an antibiotic-soaked pig.

A bit too graphic for my taste.

Even after all that sake? Sorry, I was in a mood. Having a bit of trouble maintaining proper purchase of my rocker lately.

iabsurdlyexist wrote:Christianity, LOL.

I want that on a t-shirt

The sake made for the . Otherwise, it would have been

I don't like servicemen or women or people in my home either.

Not the extent that you and others describe, but, as an introvert, my house is my home and it's mine and it's private until I open a door and then it's 'Invitation Only'. Workers feel like intruders, necessary, but still not welcomed.

I breathe a sigh of relief when they depart. And I clean up the mess. Not to your extent, but yes, I need all signs of work having been done there to be erased. I usually open the windows or spray some good smell around the place, and try to let the memory of invaders in my space dissipate like steam out a window on a cool day.

Dazz wrote:

naps wrote:By the way are you on or off the Trump Train these days? I never could tell. I'm assuming you can't stand the guy, but respect some of his rhetoric.

His comments about immigration threatening the fabric of Europe were probably the most frightening thing he's said yet. He's already garnered a rabid following of pond scum here in the US, and those comments are sure to reach people worldwide who find resonance in them.

I am for anyone at a time who at the time I see as useful to my own goals/views, at the time of the elections I preferred him to Hillary (though ignoring many issues such as immigration, and my views on voting and "democracy", I more closely fit to a Bernie Sanders/Jill Stein person, I even got the latter when doing a quiz (and I always get left-ish on these quizzes) based on issues) and still do, but he has served his limited purpose now, and I know he is a goof, all you have to do is look at his previous career failures to see that and how he's been brought back to public eye by certain people/groups to see how controlled he is (like all politicians who have a chance at faux "leadership")...I have no idea what he has said about Europe, I rarely follow the news, but based on what you said he said, I agree with him, but its nothing new or original (immigration threatening nations goes back to at least the ancient Greeks, hence why citizenship was based on blood), and even if immigration was stopped, millions of "vibrant" people are already here to deal with.

What's funny is that I think my take is almost the exact same, only I'm pro-immigration (though not the way it's done by most countries right now).

It seems like this work is going to be ongoing. Yesterday one of them came to my door with a spool of cable and a drill. I told him no. Various neighbors have been dropping by, curious about what the new heating system is like. Knock knock knock. Constantly. And now I'm getting word that there are to be more renovations. Apparently, the landlord is planning on upgrading all the units in this building so he can raise the rent and drive us all out.

Having workmen invade your home is inconvenient and probably somewhat stressful for anyone. But for me, it's impossible. I can't deal with it, and I mean that literally. It's been quite a while since my last psychotic episode, and I have no intention of allowing external circumstances to drag me back into that arena.

So don't I have a right to prevent or circumvent situations that would be seriously detrimental to my mental health? I may have to go see a psychiatrist and get a note or something.

If I was in a wheelchair and the elevator was being replaced, wouldn't I have a legal right to accessibility? How is this different? Oh, that's right; this is a mental health issue. The difference between some poor guy in a wheelchair and me is that the handicapped have many advocates. If they are denied accessibility to a restaurant, they can sue.

What options do I have? Oh, that's right: "take these pills". ###$ that. That would be like the wheelchair guy being given appetite suppressants. There! Now you don't have to worry about not being able to get into the restaurant!

Has anyone ever heard of a lawyer who represents people with mental health issues? I thought not.

And they all wonder why we end up shooting up your schools and malls.