Why don't we have an advocacy group so we can get jobs?

I don't find this to be a good idea (for schizoids)... as you said you have a different diagnosis so there might be the problem. This could be abused and it's hard to say who is schizoid and who could be faking it to get benefits in work. If your current position is not good for you, hey it's a free market, you can quit and find another position.

Most schizoid have personas that allow them to function well professionally. I only feel lost when I have to "play" myself not my work role because there is no preset I can play along by . I work with customers every day and function even better then some normal people since the level of offense I can take is beyond usual levels since I don't take anything personally. I don't get upset, I'm always objective and impersonal and I find that to be a good thing in my work. I listen well and am good at problem solving and trying to help anyone I can with my limitations and that is what most people want. My problem is only my private life... t could be my take on this but I think most "only" schizoids can relate. Your thoughts?

^What is an "only" schizoid?

saudade7 wrote:Being polite and assertive and making eye contact when a situation calls for those things isn't that hard, but maintaining a state of engagement for hours in a day is quite difficult and taxing.

Maintaining is hard, but I also have a problem with engaging initially (Being polite and assertive and making eye contact when a situation calls for those things)

It's like jumping into a cold pool. Once I start I'm okay but taking that first step is difficult.

saudade7 wrote:Working makes me resentful, aggressive and hostile though. The external structure clashes with my internal structure and feels stifling and violating.

Nicely put. I feel the same way.

Some people seems to have other issues here as well, personally I don't think I have them. So basically they just exhibit some shizoid traits along side other disorders. I think I have only schizoid traits. Anyway the basic definition in spd is that you don't have any other major disorder beside it. From what I've read on the topic schizoids shouldn't have much problems related to work, thought most prefer solitude most are not especially anxious or disabled when it comes to work performance.

It depends. If you read case studies of therapy patients with SPD there's certainly a subgroup which is fairly seriously disabled by it, because they have no drive to initiate or complete work-related tasks.

Apparently cluster A disorders, including SPD, are fairly common among the homeless. I can see an obvious connection there, as well.

e: I should add: if there's such a thing as SPD, and I have it, it bothers me in my private life only very intermittently. I'll admit to being concerned about what happens when the money runs out, though.

N1ghty wrote:Some people seems to have other issues here as well, personally I don't think I have them. So basically they just exhibit some shizoid traits along side other disorders. I think I have only schizoid traits. Anyway the basic definition in spd is that you don't have any other major disorder beside it.

Do you mean the basic definition of SPD specifically or personality disorders in general?

It's an interesting way to look at it. I have OCD which is an anxiety-based disorder, as well as anxiety in general. I've often wondered why a schizoid would be so anxious.

Maybe I don't have SPD.

I use emojis a lot. Why would a schizoid use emojis??

Schizoids are permitted to use emojis, but only the neutral ones, such as or . Violations will be logged and reported to the Schizoid Organization Committee's Emotional Inexpression Taskgroup.

SkeletonWarDraftee wrote:Schizoids are permitted to use emojis, but only the neutral ones, such as or . Violations will be logged and reported to the Schizoid Organization Committee's Emotional Inexpression Taskgroup.

..oops

I mean

SkeletonWarDraftee wrote:Schizoids are permitted to use emojis, but only the neutral ones, such as or . Violations will be logged and reported to the Schizoid Organization Committee's Emotional Inexpression Taskgroup.

So far on the Internet most people I've talked to who self-identify as schizoid or as having schizoid traits like to use emojis. And some have said they 'empathize' with emojis more than with a real human giving the same expression. I think some may find the irony amusing. Overall I doubt there's a high correlation in either direction though.

saudade7 wrote:

SkeletonWarDraftee wrote:Schizoids are permitted to use emojis, but only the neutral ones, such as or . Violations will be logged and reported to the Schizoid Organization Committee's Emotional Inexpression Taskgroup.

So far on the Internet most people I've talked to who self-identify as schizoid or as having schizoid traits like to use emojis. And some have said they 'empathize' with emojis more than with a real human giving the same expression. I think some may find the irony amusing. Overall I doubt there's a high correlation in either direction though.

I've wondered this as I realized I've done it for years. Typically I don't use emojis often, but rather often in more personal messages.

Either way, I don't think it's serious. Something I found interesting (about myself) at least was all.

N1ghty wrote:Some people seems to have other issues here as well, personally I don't think I have them. So basically they just exhibit some shizoid traits along side other disorders. I think I have only schizoid traits. Anyway the basic definition in spd is that you don't have any other major disorder beside it. From what I've read on the topic schizoids shouldn't have much problems related to work, thought most prefer solitude most are not especially anxious or disabled when it comes to work performance.

###$, my post got deleted so have to retype, lol.

Even without a psychology background, things can be derived from their name. A personality disorder is self-explanatory to a degree. Someone needs personality traits that are maladaptive and inflexible in situations that call for different traits. Just being emotionally flat and less family oriented is not grounds for a disorder. A schizoid is not going to be some kind of super normie that is even better at coping with the world than a non-disordered person. That makes no sense. Sure, certain situations may put the person with SPD in their element, but it wouldn't be a pd if most situations did. I also believe being autocentric and detached is generational and a response to the times somewhat (not completely).

Someone with SPD may have no problem being charming at work, but there's no indication they'd thrive in the workplace, even if they externally appear to. If they're at pd level I would guess that without special conditioning and perhaps even with, they could struggle with crippling avolition and detrimental aversion to continuously investing time and energy into others and having boundaries violated, especially if they lean towards the overt orientation. Just being laid back and secretly not caring about clientele is lots of people. Having notable functioning issues in society and interpersonal relationships is a pd. And notable to me would be something greater than simply not being as emotionally invested as the other parties involved.