Net neutrality

ElephantEyes wrote:
Histrionics, fear mongering....little difference here in my view.

I'll give you that one.

ElephantEyes wrote:I admit I dont understand this NN thing though. If repealing the law means smaller federal gov't influence I tend to view that as good. NN is basically federal regulation of the net, no?

Apparently you don't. It means smaller gov't influence and TOTAL CORPORATE DOMINANCE.

The government at least has an internal set of checks and balances to ensure that it at least seems they are working on the people's behalf.

Big business doesn't need to pretend they care about the public. They exist and act only in their own best intere$t$.

Do you know how much money Verizon and Comcast stand to make by charging people to look at their Facebook? Or pornography? Or just about everything else in the internet?

NN is about federal regulation of internet providers so they can't price gouge us.

You probably don't remember before cable TV (and of course internet streaming) when TV was free. Buy a TV, plug it in, and you're set. Sure, there was no Cinemax, FX, or ESPN, but people didn't miss what hadn't come into existence yet. Then cable TV came along and it was awesome. At first, the major networks and local channels (the ones that you watched on TV for free before cable took over) were free with cable packages. But somewhere along the line the FCC turned their back for a second and BAM! Now people had to pay for their local programming.

The end of NN is just the beginning. Imagine having to pay to walk into a store to buy something. It will happen.Why should the stores have to pay for their insurance, property taxes or HVAC? It's a slippery slope.

Remember the low-fat craze that began in the (I think) early nineties? Since so many Americans are overweight and desperately trying to lose it so they can look like models (another manipulative ploy by media-driven big business), they were eager to believe the findings from the medical community that said dietary fat was the culprit. This is why so many products, (even those which never contained an ounce of fat to begin with ) started printing "Low Fat!" on their labels. People were desperate to avoid fats.

Well, it turned out that sugar was the culprit, not fat. So why did the medical community/press deceive the public like this?

Because they were paid off by the sugar companies.

Look it up. And while you're at it, look at the statistics involving the obesity epidemic before and after this false information was fed to the people.

They don't care. It's all about money.

This is just one example.

C'mon, EE. You're smarter than that.

^ I dont like this commie government stuff though and to me NN is part of that.

This slippery slope argument just seems like fear porn to me. I prefer less govt in my business. Different values and perspectives here is all.

Muh roads!!!!!!!

Muh facebook!!!!!!

Muh porn!!!!!

ElephantEyes wrote:^ I dont like this commie government stuff though and to me NN is part of that.

This slippery slope argument just seems like fear porn to me. I prefer less govt in my business. Different values and perspectives here is all.

Muh roads!!!!!!!

Muh facebook!!!!!!

Muh porn!!!!!

Less OR more government has no bearing under the capitalist system. It's designed for dominance by the superior corporate forces. Democracy means nothing under capitalism. Just follow the money and you'll find the reality. Corporate fascism at it's worst...that is America.

The military-industrial complex..."fake patriotism"...white collar crime going un-checked...working-class crime going over-checked...and the denial of systemic oppressive forces..yeah...this is America to me.

This doesn't even account for the toll that capitalism has garnered on other countries in the World.

The American flag is offensive to me. And yes, I am living in America.

I will kneel every time the star-spangled banner is played (as a protest to corporate fascism). It's a disgrace, as far as I'm concerned.

You still don't get it.

Commie government stuff? You must be taking about the current administration.

Here are some undisputable proven facts:

The sun is hot.
Left unrefrigerated, milk will go bad quickly.
Dazz is sexually attracted to his mom.
Russia meddled in the 2016 presidential election.
Cats are your overlords.

Since you continue to wallow under a rock, please be advised that Trump asked Putin specifically if he meddled in the 2016 election. Putin said no. Trump believed him and tweeted it to the world. Cuck.

Net neutrality was put into place during the Obama administration. Not because there was none, but to preserve it.

Trump is smashing NN because (a)he is continually reversing all of the previous administration's policies, and (b) his interests lie in benefitting Corporate America. THIS IS WHAT THEY MEAN BY SMALL GOVERNMENT. It has nothing to do with 'your business'. (unless you mean your business business. We'll have to see what becomes of the proposed tax bill to see how that will affect you).

This slippery slope argument just seems like fear porn to me.

STOP SAYING THAT. I heard you the first time. And the second time. And the eighty eighth time.

Different values and perspectives here is all.

Not really. Like TV, the internet is the great equalizer. Rich or poor, black or white, smart or stupid, we all have access to the same content. So this could affect you as much as it affects me.

Is there a journalistic institution that you trust? Maybe you should look there and see what they're saying about NN. Not opinion-wise, but fact-wise.

I Dream 5 wrote:
Less OR more government has no bearing under the capitalist system. It's designed for dominance by the superior corporate forces. Democracy means nothing under capitalism. Just follow the money and you'll find the reality. Corporate fascism at it's worst...that is America.

Yes. Thank you!

Stop shouting at me? I didnt know schizoids shouted. Im trembling.

I only mentioned fear mongering twice you gaslighter.

I dont know enough to make a cognizent argument so I will bow out you bully.

I tought net neutrality was a good thing. Pro user freedom and anti "economic power" thing. I mean a Internet provider wont be able to favor one kind of traffic over another(like whatsapp vs telegram)

creative_nothing wrote:I tought net neutrality was a good thing. Pro user freedom and anti "economic power" thing. I mean a Internet provider wont be able to favor one kind of traffic over another(like whatsapp vs telegram)

They could. If it passes, there's no telling how far they'll go.

ElephantEyes wrote:Stop shouting at me? I didnt know schizoids shouted. Im trembling.

I only mentioned fear mongering twice you gaslighter.

I dont know enough to make a cognizent argument so I will bow out you bully.

Oh my God he's turned you into an empath.

I'm sorry.

naps wrote:
I'm sorry.

You know I cant stay mad at that face.

You can read the proposed Net Neutrality repeal and understand why its a bad idea. Before Net Neutrality, the internet was a place where the bill wasn't exactly needed. With the increased necessity of internet access for entertainment, news, and education, there needs to be some form of level playing field to prevent monopolies.

If the internet providers didn't plan on exploiting websites and the people who use them, they wouldn't be so against Net Neutrality. A lack of Net Neutrality can influence everything to what news you gather to who is able to receive access to Netflix. It slows down innovation and creates barriers to the market. Sometimes fear is a good thing. There is nothing wrong with government intervention so long as it is responsible.