Isolation and underlying conditions

smirks wrote:In my experience, it is more helpful to focus on what you can do, rather than what you can't. You may have limitations, but you are not the only person with limitations on this planet. So instead of focusing on what prevents you from living a normal life as you perceive it, focus on the things that you can do, and let that lead you to a better place.

I agree. The problem is knowing or finding where the line is. At this moment, all I can see beyond the line ("what I actually can do") is "get used to it and wait until it gets better on its own". When it gets to this, I start to question things.

Well, why is there a line, and why are you directing your thoughts in the direction of the line? I think a lot of the time in our modern world, we concentrate on what we can't have and this causes people a lot of psychological pain, but there's a whole big world out there full of good things that are possible, so I think directing thoughts in that direction, instead of areas with notable limits, is ultimately more beneficial.

smirks wrote:there's a whole big world out there full of good things that are possible

Such as __ ?

Define "good".

If there's no line, you'll often chase the impossible, fully convinced that it's possible. Or the undesirable, fully convinced that it's good.

I've always been rather isolated. It's because I'm so ahead of my time that most people don't get me.

I forget that I've also been "diagnosed" twice with "migraine without headaches" (believe it or not, it's in the ICD). It's obviously just another catch-all, but it's helpful to remember. The main difference from the other vague neurological thing ("autism spectrum") is that it's cyclical, and episodes have a life of their own once they've been triggered (by things such as the weather). It gets more complicated when it gets chronic, but most times when it happens, if the offending triggers are temporary, then it's temporary too.

So "should I just wait it out and not do much anything meaningful or productive in the meantime?". I guess that, for at least a couple of days, the answer is "yes". It's just not very straightforward to realize that an episode is happening, since it's marked exactly by mental confusion and agitation, tiredness and sudden mood fluctuations. This isn't the first or second or twentieth time I realize all this. But I guess that each time that I reach the conclusion that "it's okay to be an invalid for a little while", it gets a little better.

I'm just not sure what to do about ADHD meds when an episode happens. I have the impression that they make it worse, but I've seen people saying that they even take stimulants to prevent migraines, and stopping them is what makes things worse. So... . More trial and error, I suppose.

zeno wrote:

smirks wrote:there's a whole big world out there full of good things that are possible

Such as __ ?

Define "good".

If there's no line, you'll often chase the impossible, fully convinced that it's possible. Or the undesirable, fully convinced that it's good.

Well, good is subjective. Did you want me to list all of the things I find good about the world so you can derisively shoot them down?

What I am saying is that you can stare down the line of all the things that are not possible for you to do and be miserable, or do a 180 and look at all the things that are possible for you to do.

It's your choice though.

smirks wrote:It's your choice though.

It's only a choice if you cal tell which is which, or have at least an educated guess (see my last post above).

smirks wrote:

zeno wrote:

smirks wrote:there's a whole big world out there full of good things that are possible

Such as __ ?

Define "good".

If there's no line, you'll often chase the impossible, fully convinced that it's possible. Or the undesirable, fully convinced that it's good.

Well, good is subjective. Did you want me to list all of the things I find good about the world so you can derisively shoot them down?

What I am saying is that you can stare down the line of all the things that are not possible for you to do and be miserable, or do a 180 and look at all the things that are possible for you to do.

It's your choice though.

Is it that black and white, I mean can't you see both what is possible and what is not possible at the same time?
Actually I'm not sure if I understood what you guys are talking about .
All I can say is that maybe what individuals who end up spending time on this forum have in common is that in a world full of possibilities they have only very few that they can choose because of some kind of huge invisible obstacles.
Maybe it's just the way I see it.
It's easy to see all the things that are possible, but in the end of the day most of them are impossible. No matter how hard you try to focus on strengths and positivity, the negative impact is what matters. Correct me if I'm wrong.

under ice wrote:All I can say is that maybe what individuals who end up spending time on this forum have in common is that in a world full of possibilities they have only very few that they can choose because of some kind of huge invisible obstacles.
Maybe it's just the way I see it.
It's easy to see all the things that are possible, but in the end of the day most of them are impossible. No matter how hard you try to focus on strengths and positivity, the negative impact is what matters. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think that's spot on. What I wonder is how many other people out here / out there are constrained by things beyond the reach of willpower, but without making that connection (like maybe that guy who was talking about celiac disease as if it couldn't have an impact on apathy and isolation), and likely setting themselves up for failure when they do try to change their attitude.

Not that it's a bad idea to make an effort to change or adjust your attitude from time to time, but sometimes following boilerplate advice is just not enough.

zeno wrote:

smirks wrote:It's your choice though.

It's only a choice if you cal tell which is which, or have at least an educated guess (see my last post above).

The one about the migraines? Like 1 in 7 people have migraines. Hell, I have migraines. And yes, the kind that change with the weather. Sure, they're debilitating, and prodromes suck, but honestly, it sounds like you're just trying to help yourself reach the conclusion that it's hopeless to do anything ever. I think that most people just deal with it the best they can. It's just adulthood.