Would you like don't need to eat?

Public food orgies have been part of the behaviour of the rats from Calhouns overpopulation experiments. One of the signs of disrupted social organization which he called behavioral sink.

Reminds me of German Christmas markets, foreigners get all googly eyed about for some reason. It's several years since I went to one. In the larger cities it's not even possible to walk there uninterrupted and people stand there in the hundreds and shove some overpriced crap down their throat.

You think an aversion to eating might be an aversion to crowding?

naps wrote:The next person who tells me which fork...

You possess more than one kind of fork? I always imagined you'd eat with a spatula.

While eating can be dull much of the time, it can also be wonderful if it's done right. Sleep, on the other hand, is very irritating. I can't help but think about all of the things I could do if I did not waste a third of my life unconscious. I rarely even have dreams to enjoy, either.

Dalloway wrote:Public food orgies have been part of the behaviour of the rats from Calhouns overpopulation experiments. One of the signs of disrupted social organization which he called behavioral sink.

Reminds me of German Christmas markets, foreigners get all googly eyed about for some reason. It's several years since I went to one. In the larger cities it's not even possible to walk there uninterrupted and people stand there in the hundreds and shove some overpriced crap down their throat.

You think an aversion to eating might be an aversion to crowding?

naps wrote:The next person who tells me which fork...

You possess more than one kind of fork? I always imagined you'd eat with a spatula.

This is interesting. I've noticed the surge of eating channels on youtube lately. I've even watched a few but its not a habit.

Lately I have found watching this guy eat 75 year old MRE's really satisfying for some reason.

Reminds me of Mok-bang. Do you know that? Koreans stream themselves eating ridiculous amounts of calories. It's like game streaming; some make a living doing it; a certain girl is said to make 9k a month.

Like you, some find it satisfying to watch, but it also suspected since a growing number of people live by themselves, they take these streamers for a table-mate to not feel alone.

That's capitalism for you. Self-display, inconsequential chit-chat and overindulgence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z31ZXxHNVI

Dalloway wrote:Reminds me of Mok-bang. Do you know that? Koreans stream themselves eating ridiculous amounts of calories. It's like game streaming; some make a living doing it; a certain girl is said to make 9k a month.

Like you, some find it satisfying to watch, but it also suspected since a growing number of people live by themselves, they take these streamers for a table-mate to not feel alone.

That's capitalism for you. Self-display, inconsequential chit-chat and overindulgence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z31ZXxHNVI

I have watched a few mokbang videos. It is ridiculous how popular they are. I watched out of curiousity but I don't quite understand the popularity.

For me its a way to relax though. Personally I enjoy seeing people's enthusiasm. Its like a vicarious enjoyment. The MREs interest me because its like I'm also seeing some history or something I'd not otherwise see. Seeing other types of foreign food could be interesting as well.

Its not my goto on youtube. Normally I watch newsy stuff. But the eating as I said satiates curiousity and is just easy to watch and relaxing at times.

Not sure what others' motivations are.

Perhaps its a sign of a fall of civilisation. Would not surprise me, we are far from civilised as it is. Proof is in the pudding, with the Internet and youtube and all its potential, what do most people end up doing with it? Watching sex and food binging.

MotherRussia wrote:Perhaps its a sign of a fall of civilisation. Would not surprise me, we are far from civilised as it is. Proof is in the pudding, with the Internet and youtube and all its potential, what do most people end up doing with it? Watching sex and food binging.

On the other hand, there's also a lot of stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhy4Z_32kQo

or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUvTyaaNkzM

or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0ZhhGwCOQ

which could technically have existed since the beginning of Youtube or earlier, but didn't. This type of content only started to become popular very recently, and it's rising and multiplying rapidly.

What does one thing combined with the other say about current civilization as a whole and where it's headed though? I don't know. It's easy to see that there's a big transition going on, but I think it's hard to say if it's more of an "end" from our current perspective or more of a "beginning" instead. It's a tipping point. All bets are off.

zeno wrote:

MotherRussia wrote:Perhaps its a sign of a fall of civilisation. Would not surprise me, we are far from civilised as it is. Proof is in the pudding, with the Internet and youtube and all its potential, what do most people end up doing with it? Watching sex and food binging.

On the other hand, there's also a lot of stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhy4Z_32kQo

or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUvTyaaNkzM

or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0ZhhGwCOQ

which could technically have existed since the beginning of Youtube or earlier, but didn't. This type of content only started to become popular very recently, and it's rising and multiplying rapidly.

What does one thing combined with the other say about current civilization as a whole and where it's headed though? I don't know. It's easy to see that there's a big transition going on, but I think it's hard to say if it's more of an "end" from our current perspective or more of a "beginning" instead. It's a tipping point. All bets are off.

Its good to see that. Perhaps I'm having some kind of pessimistic confirmation bias in my prior post.

It doesn't seem like our current civilisation puts as much emphasis on things like philosophy and thought, as they did a few thousand years ago. From my perspective anyways, whether that perspective is real or distorted.

How I see the main motivator today is money. And anything that will make money. The thing that becomes a big issue is because there is monetary potential in it. An example is the current transgender thing. I've recently actually had heated arguments among my closest relatives over this. This makes no sense. There are no transgenders in our family, it touches no one we know. Well perhhaps there ight be a casual acquaintance, otherwise, its not our issue. Yet we are fighting over the dinner table about this. Its ridiculous.

The reason? Because someone is pushing the agenda because it will make a drug company a lot of money. I feel like I can see through this, for some reason. Perhaps for whatever reason I'm not as easily manipulated, but others are and this actually causes heated debates and fights and hurt feelings.

I'm starting to go off on a rant.

But the thing people do or talk about or that becomes popular is the thing that makes money for whatever reason. And people who have their buttons pushed easily will fall into traps.

We need more philosophy etc. because that encourages people to see the bigger picture, not the agenda or the trendy thing, or the thing that riles their emotions. The rational, logical minded issues that require detached, cool-headed thinking. That is what we are missing in our current civilisation. But I think they had this, before. But we seem to be getting further away from this.

MotherRussia wrote:The reason? Because someone is pushing the agenda because it will make a drug company a lot of money. I feel like I can see through this, for some reason. Perhaps for whatever reason I'm not as easily manipulated, but others are and this actually causes heated debates and fights and hurt feelings.

I'm starting to go off on a rant.

But the thing people do or talk about or that becomes popular is the thing that makes money for whatever reason. And people who have their buttons pushed easily will fall into traps.

I think of it as "the hippie trap". Like the way hippies inadvertently but effectively disguised and consolidated extreme "free market" (unregulated and generalized capitalism applied to all aspects of life) as "free love". Which sounds like the pinnacle of communion and altruism in theory, but is only a fertile ground for opportunism in reality. They didn't understand what they were fighting against, they only wanted to understand what they believed life should be like.

It's the rejection of reality as invalid because it's too complicated to comprehend in one single bite. Magical and wishful thinking. Some take it to the extremes of altruistic rhetoric, some take it to the opposite extreme instead, but both extremes have that type of denial in common.

zeno wrote:... too complicated to comprehend in one single bite.

Whew. Finally we are back to the question: to eat? or not to eat?

I say eat. Train yourself to enjoy eating sometimes. Give yourself a bit of simple innocent pleasure.
Don't go to extremes and insist that every eating experience be magical, or confuse/mix eating with other forms of sensuality (the extreme eating videos... so much I could say about that).

But eat, not just to live, but to... well, eat.

I don't know. I like to just be taken by surprise. If I set out to look for enjoyment in food, I probably won't find it. But if I don't, then maybe I will, and sometimes I do.